Hi,
newcomer on this list speaking. I'm working with Tails. One of the top-priorities for Tails in the next 2 years is to reach out to communities that are under-represented in the Tails contributors community and in the Tails userbase.
Personally I want to work more *with* these under-represented communities and less "for" them (i.e. crappy colonialist approach, if you ask me). I'm focused on Brazil because I have good connections in activist, PET advocates & trainers there already, which provides solid foundations I want to build on top of as opposed to starting from scratch elsewhere.
I think CryptoRave (that I attended last year) is a great place to work on this topic as it gathers lots of people (1-3k depending on the year) and they are very diverse: random people who heard they should pay attention to their privacy/safety online, free software and PET advocates & trainers, activists, IT students, software developers etc. ⇒ impact is potentially great, and cost/benefit is interesting. In 2018 CrytoRave will happen on May 4-5.
What I'd like to do there, for ethical reasons I prefer formats where I'll be mostly listening or interacting in a group, as opposed to me talking to a large audience (but if it seems a talk is a good way to approach the problem, I can also do that):
1. Regarding current and potential users, advocates & trainers
Ask, listen, try my best to understand the needs and give our projects useful data to better prioritize our work.
For example, last year I conducted a number of "intercept interviews" there with Tails users: https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/intercept_interviews/
This helped us understand better what people use Tails for, why they don't use it for other things, what works well and what is problematic. I would like to do the same again both for Tails and Tor. I'm not a user research expert so I'd welcome help wrt. the methodology and phrasing of the questions. I would also love to have a team-mate to do this there.
I would like to better plan this in advance than what I did last year, e.g. reach out to my contacts there so we arrive with a (non-exhaustive) list of people we know we should interview, and work with the organizers of the event to ensure whoever else we should interview knows about it and can find us.
2. Regarding current and potential contributors
I want to understand better what the stumbling blocks are on the path to contributing to Tails and Tor. I also want to help interested people get started with their first contribution: in my experience having someone, right next to you, who you can ask questions creates a tremendously better new contributor experience than having to look up all the needed info online. I'm not sure what's the best format for this would be and I would be happy to design it with other people, and to share this work with other Tor attendees once we're there.
I acknowledge people who live in Brazil are better placed to know what the best approach would be so we should discuss this with them. I would start with asking my contacts there, the Tails pt-br translation team and the events organizers. But perhaps people on this list have some insight?
I don't speak Portuguese so I may not be the best person to do this work there; sadly, we have nobody who's very active at Tails speaks Portuguese or lives much closer to Brazil (yet!). Interestingly, last year some Tails users expressed they were happy to meet a Tails developer in person and happily surprised I would care enough to bother traveling that far in order to meet them, which alleviates the cons a little bit. Also, I can easily find good translators to smooth interviews and session I would facilitate. Still, if we have enough people better placed than me to do what we want to do there, I'll be totally in favor of directing our resources to them.
Regarding costs, if booked sufficiently in advance, sending me there would cost ~800€. Tails could probably pay some of it but it would be nice to pool resources with Tor and/or find funding for this. I'll be hosted for free at friends and I can pay for my food & other expenses there.
What do you think?
Cheers,
Dear intrigeri,
Em Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:55:06AM +0100, intrigeri escreveu:
Hi,
newcomer on this list speaking. I'm working with Tails. One of the top-priorities for Tails in the next 2 years is to reach out to communities that are under-represented in the Tails contributors community and in the Tails userbase.
Personally I want to work more *with* these under-represented communities and less "for" them (i.e. crappy colonialist approach, if you ask me). I'm focused on Brazil because I have good connections in activist, PET advocates & trainers there already, which provides solid foundations I want to build on top of as opposed to starting from scratch elsewhere.
I think CryptoRave (that I attended last year) is a great place to work on this topic as it gathers lots of people (1-3k depending on the year) and they are very diverse: random people who heard they should pay attention to their privacy/safety online, free software and PET advocates & trainers, activists, IT students, software developers etc. ⇒ impact is potentially great, and cost/benefit is interesting. In 2018 CrytoRave will happen on May 4-5.
What I'd like to do there, for ethical reasons I prefer formats where I'll be mostly listening or interacting in a group, as opposed to me talking to a large audience (but if it seems a talk is a good way to approach the problem, I can also do that):
Regarding current and potential users, advocates & trainers
Ask, listen, try my best to understand the needs and give our projects useful data to better prioritize our work.
For example, last year I conducted a number of "intercept interviews" there with Tails users: https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/intercept_interviews/
This helped us understand better what people use Tails for, why they don't use it for other things, what works well and what is problematic. I would like to do the same again both for Tails and Tor. I'm not a user research expert so I'd welcome help wrt. the methodology and phrasing of the questions. I would also love to have a team-mate to do this there.
I would like to better plan this in advance than what I did last year, e.g. reach out to my contacts there so we arrive with a (non-exhaustive) list of people we know we should interview, and work with the organizers of the event to ensure whoever else we should interview knows about it and can find us.
Regarding current and potential contributors
I want to understand better what the stumbling blocks are on the path to contributing to Tails and Tor. I also want to help interested people get started with their first contribution: in my experience having someone, right next to you, who you can ask questions creates a tremendously better new contributor experience than having to look up all the needed info online. I'm not sure what's the best format for this would be and I would be happy to design it with other people, and to share this work with other Tor attendees once we're there.
I acknowledge people who live in Brazil are better placed to know what the best approach would be so we should discuss this with them. I would start with asking my contacts there, the Tails pt-br translation team and the events organizers. But perhaps people on this list have some insight?
I don't speak Portuguese so I may not be the best person to do this work there; sadly, we have nobody who's very active at Tails speaks Portuguese or lives much closer to Brazil (yet!). Interestingly, last year some Tails users expressed they were happy to meet a Tails developer in person and happily surprised I would care enough to bother traveling that far in order to meet them, which alleviates the cons a little bit. Also, I can easily find good translators to smooth interviews and session I would facilitate. Still, if we have enough people better placed than me to do what we want to do there, I'll be totally in favor of directing our resources to them.
Regarding costs, if booked sufficiently in advance, sending me there would cost ~800€. Tails could probably pay some of it but it would be nice to pool resources with Tor and/or find funding for this. I'll be hosted for free at friends and I can pay for my food & other expenses there.
What do you think?
I think we could frame your activity as a "Tails users meetup".
But, coming back home after primavera hacker, my two centavos, is that for an event like CryptoRave, it'll need to have two different sessions/activities:
- what's tails: for the general public that probably don't know what is it. If you don't want to be in the front, we can try to find someone to do this introduction talk. I think this is very important. - tails meetup: to engage the users and how to become part of the community.
I really liked your idea. And the interviews were pretty awesome. :)
We should start to find funding for your flight tickets.
cheers!, gus
gus:
Dear intrigeri,
Em Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:55:06AM +0100, intrigeri escreveu:
Hi,
newcomer on this list speaking. I'm working with Tails. One of the top-priorities for Tails in the next 2 years is to reach out to communities that are under-represented in the Tails contributors community and in the Tails userbase.
Personally I want to work more *with* these under-represented communities and less "for" them (i.e. crappy colonialist approach, if you ask me). I'm focused on Brazil because I have good connections in activist, PET advocates & trainers there already, which provides solid foundations I want to build on top of as opposed to starting from scratch elsewhere.
I think CryptoRave (that I attended last year) is a great place to work on this topic as it gathers lots of people (1-3k depending on the year) and they are very diverse: random people who heard they should pay attention to their privacy/safety online, free software and PET advocates & trainers, activists, IT students, software developers etc. ⇒ impact is potentially great, and cost/benefit is interesting. In 2018 CrytoRave will happen on May 4-5.
What I'd like to do there, for ethical reasons I prefer formats where I'll be mostly listening or interacting in a group, as opposed to me talking to a large audience (but if it seems a talk is a good way to approach the problem, I can also do that):
Regarding current and potential users, advocates & trainers
Ask, listen, try my best to understand the needs and give our projects useful data to better prioritize our work.
For example, last year I conducted a number of "intercept interviews" there with Tails users: https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/intercept_interviews/
This helped us understand better what people use Tails for, why they don't use it for other things, what works well and what is problematic. I would like to do the same again both for Tails and Tor. I'm not a user research expert so I'd welcome help wrt. the methodology and phrasing of the questions. I would also love to have a team-mate to do this there.
I would like to better plan this in advance than what I did last year, e.g. reach out to my contacts there so we arrive with a (non-exhaustive) list of people we know we should interview, and work with the organizers of the event to ensure whoever else we should interview knows about it and can find us.
Regarding current and potential contributors
I want to understand better what the stumbling blocks are on the path to contributing to Tails and Tor. I also want to help interested people get started with their first contribution: in my experience having someone, right next to you, who you can ask questions creates a tremendously better new contributor experience than having to look up all the needed info online. I'm not sure what's the best format for this would be and I would be happy to design it with other people, and to share this work with other Tor attendees once we're there.
I acknowledge people who live in Brazil are better placed to know what the best approach would be so we should discuss this with them. I would start with asking my contacts there, the Tails pt-br translation team and the events organizers. But perhaps people on this list have some insight?
I don't speak Portuguese so I may not be the best person to do this work there; sadly, we have nobody who's very active at Tails speaks Portuguese or lives much closer to Brazil (yet!). Interestingly, last year some Tails users expressed they were happy to meet a Tails developer in person and happily surprised I would care enough to bother traveling that far in order to meet them, which alleviates the cons a little bit. Also, I can easily find good translators to smooth interviews and session I would facilitate. Still, if we have enough people better placed than me to do what we want to do there, I'll be totally in favor of directing our resources to them.
Regarding costs, if booked sufficiently in advance, sending me there would cost ~800€. Tails could probably pay some of it but it would be nice to pool resources with Tor and/or find funding for this. I'll be hosted for free at friends and I can pay for my food & other expenses there.
What do you think?
I think we could frame your activity as a "Tails users meetup".
But, coming back home after primavera hacker, my two centavos, is that for an event like CryptoRave, it'll need to have two different sessions/activities:
- what's tails: for the general public that probably don't know what is it. If you don't want to be in the front, we can try to find someone
to do this introduction talk. I think this is very important.
- tails meetup: to engage the users and how to become part of the community.
We should plan to do the same for Tor as well. Do we know yet when the CFP opens?
I really liked your idea. And the interviews were pretty awesome. :)
We should start to find funding for your flight tickets.> cheers!, gus
Em Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 03:21:00PM +0000, Alison Macrina escreveu:
We should plan to do the same for Tor as well. Do we know yet when the CFP opens?
Only in January. :)
Hi gus, Alison & everyone else!
(Meta: I've been shutting up for a month in order to leave room to others in this conversation, not by lack of interest; I think it's now time to move forward with the next steps :)
gus:
intrigeri:
What do you think?
I think we could frame your activity as a "Tails users meetup".
But, coming back home after primavera hacker, my two centavos, is that for an event like CryptoRave, it'll need to have two different sessions/activities:
- what's tails: for the general public that probably don't know what is it. If you don't want to be in the front, we can try to find someone to do this introduction talk. I think this is very important.
OK! I think it would be better if someone did it in the local language and ideally from a Brazil perspective. I'm happy to share material about how we usually introduce people to what Tails is (we actually have much better text hidden in various places than what our homepage says…), to review slides and to help in any way I can whoever will give this talk. If it helps I could even give part of the talk myself (that's not as scary as a keynote, I can handle it ;)
Do you think we need something similar for Tor? Perhaps both could be merged into a single introduction talk?
- tails meetup: to engage the users and how to become part of the community.
Deal. This will be a good starting point, and from there:
- I can schedule appointments with users who're OK with answering an intercept interview.
- If people are interested into contributing to Tails, we can schedule ad-hoc self-organized time to spend more time on it (possibly after CryptoRave, I could stay a couple days if it helps make this happen).
I really liked your idea. And the interviews were pretty awesome. :)
Thanks, much appreciated!
Alison Macrina:
We should plan to do the same for Tor as well.
Absolutely! I actually proposed to pool resources and volunteered to organize the same thing for Tor as well :)
We should start to find funding for your flight tickets.
Indeed.
What I wrote initially still holds true: "if we have enough people better placed than me to do what we want to do there, I'll be totally in favor of directing our resources to them". But so far nobody raised their hand and it's about time to buy tickets before the price raises so let's assume I'll be doing it unless we find someone better placed by the end of January (fair enough?).
I'll ask how much Tails can contribute. I expect I can come back with a firm answer withing two weeks.
Alison, any chance the Tor project invests some money into this outreach initiative? E.g. 50% of the flight ticket would be about $500 USD.
Did you folks have other sources of funding in mind?
(I'm not sure if this list is the best place to discuss the funding aspect, feel free to reply privately, ideally keeping at least Alison, gus and myself in the loop.)
Cheers,
On 01/04/2018 03:04 AM, intrigeri wrote:
Alison, any chance the Tor project invests some money into this outreach initiative? E.g. 50% of the flight ticket would be about $500 USD.
Did you folks have other sources of funding in mind?
(I'm not sure if this list is the best place to discuss the funding aspect, feel free to reply privately, ideally keeping at least Alison, gus and myself in the loop.)
I will find out. Will anyone else require funding? If it is possible for Tor to assist with some funding, I'll find out what the limit is.
Hi!
How about we have an online meeting to better design what Tor/Tails/myself should do there? drebs and samba have expressed interest in participating. I'd like to see gus there too. Please invite anyone you think should be part of this conversation.
The main outcome of the meeting would be that we know what sessions will be proposed on https://cpa.cryptorave.org/en/cr2018/cfp/session/new and by whom.
Here's a poll to set up a date (all times are in UTC): https://www.systemli.org/poll/#/poll/4Ses9ryLLP/participation?encryptionKey=...
We could meet on the "cryptorave" XMPP multi-user chatroom on the conference.riseup.net server to avoid issues with IRC networks that block Tor, but I don't care much and will follow whatever you folks prefer.
Entry points into the thread for those who join the discussion now:
- December: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/global-south/2017-December/000109.htm... - January: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/global-south/2018-January/000131.html
There's quite some relevant background and discussion in there.
To sum up what we've discussed with gus so far on this thread, it appears we need at least 3 events:
1. Introduction to Tor and Tails [talk]
Ideally done in pt_BR and from a local perspective. I'm happy to help if I can be useful.
2. Tails users meetup [discussion]
Main goal from my PoV: shut up, learn about users' needs, identify users who are OK with answering an intercept interview, schedule ad-hoc self-organized time to spend more time later with attendees who want to get involved in the Tails community (I'm staying a few days in Sampa after the event specifically to make room for that).
I'd be happy to prepare and help structure this conversation but it'll be much better if we do this together with local people, in particular with those who are already active in the Tails community!
3. Tor users meetup
Same as (2) but for Tor :)
Cheers,
Quoting intrigeri (2018-02-18 11:31:31)
Hi!
How about we have an online meeting to better design what Tor/Tails/myself should do there? drebs and samba have expressed interest in participating. I'd like to see gus there too. Please invite anyone you think should be part of this conversation.
The main outcome of the meeting would be that we know what sessions will be proposed on https://cpa.cryptorave.org/en/cr2018/cfp/session/new and by whom.
Here's a poll to set up a date (all times are in UTC): https://www.systemli.org/poll/#/poll/4Ses9ryLLP/participation?encryptionKey=...
Hi, intri. Thanks for organizing this, i've filled my possible times in the poll.
Hi,
intrigeri:
How about we have an online meeting to better design what Tor/Tails/myself should do there? drebs and samba have expressed interest in participating. I'd like to see gus there too. Please invite anyone you think should be part of this conversation.
Thank you for organizing this.
From the poll evaluation results: Up to now 5 people participated in the poll.
The preferred dates are (times are in UTC)
Monday, February 26, 2018 8:00 PM. 5 people have time. Tuesday, February 27, 2018 8:00 PM. 5 people have time. Wednesday, February 28, 2018 8:00 PM. 5 people have time.
We could meet on the "cryptorave" XMPP multi-user chatroom on the conference.riseup.net server to avoid issues with IRC networks that block Tor, but I don't care much and will follow whatever you folks prefer.
Alternatively we could use #tor-meeting IRC channel (on OFTC server) as a number of people are already around.
Cheers, ~Vasilis
Hi,
Vasilis:
From the poll evaluation results:
Thanks for following up and thanks everyone who participated in the poll!
Update: 8 people participated in the poll.
The preferred dates are:
- Monday, February 26, 2018 6:00 PM … but gus can't make it
- Wednesday, February 28, 2018 8:00 PM … but samba can't make it
It would make me sad to have this meeting without gus or samba so I'm tempted to create another poll for March 1-7 but I suspect there will never be a date that works for everyone and it'll be tricky to have everyone's input in time for the first of the currently preferred dates.
So I say let's pick Wednesday, February 28, 2018 8:00 PM because:
- one more local organizer can attend - it gives the person who cannot attend (samba) more time to share their thoughts over email
Fair enough?
We could meet on the "cryptorave" XMPP multi-user chatroom on the conference.riseup.net server to avoid issues with IRC networks that block Tor, but I don't care much and will follow whatever you folks prefer.
Alternatively we could use #tor-meeting IRC channel (on OFTC server) as a number of people are already around.
Works for me as long as every participant already has a tested, working way to bypass OFTC blocking incoming Tor connections whenever it's not in the mood.
Cheers,
Thanks intrigeri, I've another meeting on Monday at this hour but I can make it +1h after if it's ok for you and Gus let's still try on Monday if not let's try on Wed as it's ok for you bye
On 02/21/2018 03:33 AM, intrigeri wrote:
Hi,
Vasilis:
From the poll evaluation results:
Thanks for following up and thanks everyone who participated in the poll!
Update: 8 people participated in the poll.
The preferred dates are:
Monday, February 26, 2018 6:00 PM … but gus can't make it
Wednesday, February 28, 2018 8:00 PM … but samba can't make it
It would make me sad to have this meeting without gus or samba so I'm tempted to create another poll for March 1-7 but I suspect there will never be a date that works for everyone and it'll be tricky to have everyone's input in time for the first of the currently preferred dates.
So I say let's pick Wednesday, February 28, 2018 8:00 PM because:
- one more local organizer can attend
- it gives the person who cannot attend (samba) more time to share their thoughts over email
Fair enough?
We could meet on the "cryptorave" XMPP multi-user chatroom on the conference.riseup.net server to avoid issues with IRC networks that block Tor, but I don't care much and will follow whatever you folks prefer.
Alternatively we could use #tor-meeting IRC channel (on OFTC server) as a number of people are already around.
Works for me as long as every participant already has a tested, working way to bypass OFTC blocking incoming Tor connections whenever it's not in the mood.
Cheers,
Hello, let's try monday, I can make it! :)
cheers, gus
Em Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 12:39:38PM -0600, samba escreveu:
Thanks intrigeri, I've another meeting on Monday at this hour but I can make it +1h after if it's ok for you and Gus let's still try on Monday if not let's try on Wed as it's ok for you bye
On 02/21/2018 03:33 AM, intrigeri wrote:
Hi,
Vasilis:
From the poll evaluation results:
Thanks for following up and thanks everyone who participated in the poll!
Update: 8 people participated in the poll.
The preferred dates are:
Monday, February 26, 2018 6:00 PM … but gus can't make it
Wednesday, February 28, 2018 8:00 PM … but samba can't make it
It would make me sad to have this meeting without gus or samba so I'm tempted to create another poll for March 1-7 but I suspect there will never be a date that works for everyone and it'll be tricky to have everyone's input in time for the first of the currently preferred dates.
So I say let's pick Wednesday, February 28, 2018 8:00 PM because:
- one more local organizer can attend
- it gives the person who cannot attend (samba) more time to share their thoughts over email
Fair enough?
We could meet on the "cryptorave" XMPP multi-user chatroom on the conference.riseup.net server to avoid issues with IRC networks that block Tor, but I don't care much and will follow whatever you folks prefer.
Alternatively we could use #tor-meeting IRC channel (on OFTC server) as a number of people are already around.
Works for me as long as every participant already has a tested, working way to bypass OFTC blocking incoming Tor connections whenever it's not in the mood.
Cheers,
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Fechou! - Monday, February 26, 2018 6:00 PM
so, if for you is ok let's talk on Monday 26 at 17:00 UTC I prefer on irc #tor-south
timezone tool[1] for a quick reminder
#cr2018 tailstortalks
Rome/Berlin/Paris : 18:00 UTC: 17:00 Brazil: 14:00 Me: 11:00
Bye!
[1] https://github.com/gbagnoli/tzbuddy
Em Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 12:41:56PM +0100, intrigeri escreveu:
samba:
so, if for you is ok let's talk on Monday 26 at 17:00 UTC I prefer on irc #tor-south
deal!
Ok!
I checked today the submissions to CryptoRave and we already have 4 Tor related activities made by 3 people:
1. 11 Tors e um segredo 2. Relay do Tor com Raspberry Pi 3 3. Tails, Tor, Deep Web e outros assuntos relacionados (para mulheres, pessoas não-binárias e genderqueer) 4. Brasil 2018 - monitore a internet contra censura (from Isabela)
cheers, gus
Olá,
Thanks to everyone for attending this meeting.
Meeting Minutes: https://people.torproject.org/~andz/logs/2018CryptoRaveIRCMeetingMinutes.txt
Meeting Agenda: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/teams/CommunityTeam/Projec...
[]s, ~Vasilis
Hi,
the deadline for proposing activities is tomorrow so let's check how we're doing on this front:
- Tor intro talk, Tails intro talk: drebs, did you find a team-mate and submit it?
- Tails and Tor Browser install party: José Victor and drebs, have you submitted it yet?
- Tails + Tor users meetup: I'll submit it right now and will then coordinate with isabela wrt. the Tor part
- Tor+Tails volunteers / contributors / relay ops meetup: ggus, did you submit it?
If for any of these sessions you lack time to submit by the deadline, let me know today: I'll try to submit it for you tomorrow.
Thanks!
Cheers,
Quoting intrigeri (2018-03-23 06:24:31)
Hi,
the deadline for proposing activities is tomorrow so let's check how we're doing on this front:
- Tor intro talk, Tails intro talk: drebs, did you find a team-mate and submit it?
Yes, I volunteered José Victor to do the Tails intro with me and I found another victim to do Tor intro with me. We have not submitted yet but we already have enough written to do it.
- Tails and Tor Browser install party: José Victor and drebs, have you submitted it yet?
Same as above.
Tails + Tor users meetup: I'll submit it right now and will then coordinate with isabela wrt. the Tor part
Tor+Tails volunteers / contributors / relay ops meetup: ggus, did you submit it?
If for any of these sessions you lack time to submit by the deadline, let me know today: I'll try to submit it for you tomorrow.
Not needed, thanks.
It'd be nice to coordinate times somehow. Examples:
- it's better if tails workshop happens after Tor and Tails intro talks so people that got interested during the talks can show up in workshop.
- it's better if users and volunteers meetups don't collide with any of the above, and with eachotehr, so everyone interested can go in all of them.
There's a place in the form called "Submission note" which i think is for info like this. Maybe we want to add a standardized text so it's clear these activities are coordinated?
Hi,
great to see you're on top of things!
drebs@riseup.net:
It'd be nice to coordinate times somehow. Examples:
- it's better if tails workshop happens after Tor and Tails intro talks so people that got interested during the talks can show up in workshop.
- it's better if users and volunteers meetups don't collide with any of the above, and with eachotehr, so everyone interested can go in all of them.
Absolutely.
There's a place in the form called "Submission note" which i think is for info like this. Maybe we want to add a standardized text so it's clear these activities are coordinated?
Excellent idea! I'm happy to paste that text into the event I've submitted once you've written it (I don't speak pt_BR). What you wrote above is a pretty good start IMO.
By the way, if someone could translate into pt_BR the description of the event I've submitted already, I could update it on the website:
- title: "Tails and Tor users meetup" - abstract: "You're using Tails or Tor? Meet contributors to these projects, tell us what you like and what you dislike, help us prioritize our work!"
Feel free to improve the text along the way. Thanks in advance :)
Cheers,
Hi,
Em Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 06:42:30AM -0300, drebs@riseup.net escreveu:
Quoting intrigeri (2018-03-23 06:24:31)
Hi,
the deadline for proposing activities is tomorrow so let's check how we're doing on this front:
- Tor intro talk, Tails intro talk: drebs, did you find a team-mate and submit it?
Yes, I volunteered José Victor to do the Tails intro with me and I found another victim to do Tor intro with me. We have not submitted yet but we already have enough written to do it.
During our meeting I told that would like to do the Tor introduction. So, you don't need to look for another victims, I'm happy to do this and I already submitted the proposal. :)
- Tails and Tor Browser install party: José Victor and drebs, have you submitted it yet?
Same as above.
- Tails + Tor users meetup: I'll submit it right now and will then coordinate with isabela wrt. the Tor part
Could we have a different name here? I think it might confuse ppl.
- Tor+Tails volunteers / contributors / relay ops meetup: ggus, did you submit it?
submitted:
Title: Tor meetup Subtitle: Venha fazer parte da resistência digital!
If for any of these sessions you lack time to submit by the deadline, let me know today: I'll try to submit it for you tomorrow.
Not needed, thanks.
It'd be nice to coordinate times somehow. Examples:
- it's better if tails workshop happens after Tor and Tails intro talks so people that got interested during the talks can show up in workshop.
Ok, put this as a note in the "notes" section, so the organization can schedule the activity in the right time.
- it's better if users and volunteers meetups don't collide with any of the above, and with eachotehr, so everyone interested can go in all of them.
Same here. Add this as an admin note in the system.
There's a place in the form called "Submission note" which i think is for info like this. Maybe we want to add a standardized text so it's clear these activities are coordinated?
Yep!
cheers, gus
Quoting gus (2018-03-23 08:30:28)
During our meeting I told that would like to do the Tor introduction. So, you don't need to look for another victims, I'm happy to do this and I already submitted the proposal. :)
OK, i probably missed that. Is it something you need any help with or are you good to go?
There's a place in the form called "Submission note" which i think is for info like this. Maybe we want to add a standardized text so it's clear these activities are coordinated?
Yep!
Here's a proposal for text to use in notes, saying that (1) some tor and tails activities were coordinated and should if possible avoid collision, and that (2) it'd be better if the tails workshop could be after the intros:
Algumas sessões sobre Tor e Tails foram organizadas em conjunto e, se for possível, gostaríamos que fosse dada uma atenção em evitar a colisão das seguintes atividades: - encontro de usuários Tor - encontro de usuários Tails - falas de introdução a Tor - falas de introdução a Tails - oficina de Tails Além disso, se for possível encaixar a oficina de Tails depois das falas de introdução pode ser que mais pessoas se interessem em participar. Gratidão!
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