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Re: [tbb-dev] [tor-project] Tor Browser team meeting notes, 12 Nov 2018
by intrigeri 15 Nov '18

15 Nov '18

Hi, > tjr: > [...] > * Other: I am considering writing a tbb-dev proposal to increase the > max content processes from 4 to 999. This would increase memory > consumption, especially for users with a lot of tabs. It would provide > some small level of tab isolation at the process level, but only for new > tabs opened, not tabs reused. The security gain contains a lot of "Well > if the user does this, things are kinda better, but if they do this > they're no better." So not sure if it's useful, the main draw is that > it's a 4 character patch, so easy to do, just difficult to decide one. FWIW, in Tails we had to decrease dom.ipc.processCount to 2 on systems with less than 3GB of RAM: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1066789#c5

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Web Extension Process
by Tom Ritter 13 Nov '18

13 Nov '18

I checked on the Web Extension process preference, and here was the response: https://mozilla.logbot.info/webextensions/20181113#c15605205 Seems like it would be prudent to plan on needing to fix this by the next ESR. -tom

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November 7, 1900 UTC Security Control Redesign Sync
by Georg Koppen 30 Oct '18

30 Oct '18

Hi all! We thought about meeting at 1900 UTC next Wed (November 7) to hammer out the last issues for our security control redesign. Place is, as usual, the OFTC IRC network in the #tor-meeting channel. Please join us if you can! The current proposal[1] and a summary of where we are and what still needs to be done[2] are good starting points to get up to speed in case you missed previous discussions. See you there, Georg [1] https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor-browser-spec.git/tree/proposals/101-secur… [2] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/25658#comment:45

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Moving our meeting time to 1900 UTC
by Georg Koppen 30 Oct '18

30 Oct '18

Hi all! Summer time is about to end (and ended in Europe already), so we move our meeting time accordingly to 1900 UTC starting from next week on Monday (Nov 5). The location stays the same, though: OFTC IRC network in #tor-meeting. Georg

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Tentative roadmap up to (and including March 2019)
by Georg Koppen 15 Oct '18

15 Oct '18

Hi! Below comes the link to our tentative roadmap: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tbb-roadmap-2018-19 I still need to talk to the network-team to make sure we are on the same page with respect to items they have on their radar and which we need. In brackets are potential sponsors for work we want to do (some of this is currently under submission). I assigned folks to work on particular items but that's not finalized yet. Please speak up if you'd like to have different assignments. The work for Q1 in 2019 is not as detailed yet to give us more flexibility and pick up more important stuff in case it emerges. I hope we can finalize the roadmap this week and think we should talk about it in our meeting later today. Georg

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"Peeling the Onion’s User Experience Layer: Examining Naturalistic Use of the Tor Browser"
by David Fifield 21 Sep '18

21 Sep '18

Kevin Gallagher posted his et al.'s paper on Tor Browser UX on the ux list. https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/ux/2018-September/000427.html Some user quotations you may appreciate: Several participants perceived using the Tor Browser as a learning experience. For instance, some Tor Browser warnings made them aware of threats to anonymity they had not previously considered, such as HTML5 canvas data, window maximization, etc. “I really enjoyed that when you resize the Tor window, it notifies you that, while you may choose to do so, it actually makes your device more vulnerable. I had no idea that this was an issue and was very pleased that Tor let me know this.” – (P11, F, unspecified age, write-up) Similarly, participants found it illuminating to consult the circuit information, which many felt was well-presented and useful. “One really cool tool that Tor offers is the map of where the IP address is being rerouted — seeing that the circuit is being bounced around back and forth to other countries.” – (P1, M, 22, write-up) “I loved that I was able to see the circuit that the browsing session was being routed through and how it bounced around different countries.” – (P5, F, 19, write-up)

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Tor Browser proposals
by Georg Koppen 21 Sep '18

21 Sep '18

Hi all! Some of you asked me about a more formal process to reason about implementing complex features, possibly with different teams involved. Or just documenting new and untested ideas more formally, easier accessible for everyone. I added a proposals dir[1] for that, borrowing heavily from the Tor proposal process. 001-process.txt explains what this is all about and the first two proposals made it already in. I think that's a good start, but we probably can fine-tune this whole idea and process to fit more into our workflow and to our needs. Let me know what you think and which changes we should make. Georg [1] https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor-browser-spec.git/tree/proposals

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No meeting on 9/24
by Georg Koppen 20 Sep '18

20 Sep '18

Hi! Just a reminder that we won't have our weekly Tor Browser meeting on Monday 9/24. We'll have enough meetings that week and the one after it that we skip this one. See you all in Mexico, Georg

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Spoofing Window Dimensions without Letterboxing
by Arthur D. Edelstein 20 Sep '18

20 Sep '18

Hi everyone, I have been discussing options for mitigating viewport-dimension fingerprinting with the Mozilla uplift team and I came up with a proposal for a non-letterboxing approach that might have some advantages over letterboxing: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pww4_gY59SPIK5dMxJchpevPs-MeeY5_mkxAKZd… Maybe this is something we can discuss in Mexico City. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts. Thanks, Arthur

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Pad for State of the Onion talks
by Georg Koppen 18 Sep '18

18 Sep '18

Hi! I created a pad where we can share ideas for the State of the Onion talks during our dev meeting: https://pad.riseup.net/p/G6ToSghBgWhG I added an idea and some steps how to get there. I am happy if we want to focus on something else instead. Georg

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