Hi all,
I read the reviews/comments of Tor Browser for Android on Google Play from November and December. Some of the requests were addressed/implemented in the December Tor Browser 8.5a5 release, but I'll mention them here for completeness.
In November, the most frequent comment/request was about the lack of copy/paste functionality. This was tracked and fixed in #27256.
The second most frequent comment referred to receiving a browser proxy error message (some mentioned "incorrect proxy setting" message). It seems possible this was due to Orbot not being installed or running. Before tor was bundled in the app, Tor Browser did warn the user if an Orbot installation wasn't detected and it tried starting Orbot if it was detected but wasn't running, but maybe this wasn't sufficient in all cases. Tor Browser now includes its own tor proxy, so those failures should be mitigated.
The remaining comments were: - Requesting tor integration directly into the app (ticket #28051) - Requesting ability to take screenshots (ticket #27987) - Can't download images/pdfs/files (ticket #28705) - Tor is slow - Request for Russian localizations (ticket #26843) - Request for additional localizations (ticket #26843) - Lack of ad-blocker - Prevented from installing add-ons (primarily for installing an ad-blocker) - Request for a single button that disables all scripts - Request for supporting x86 devices (ticket #27210) - Observation Tor Browser is not a torrent client
In December, including comments before and after the release where the app included its own tor client, the most frequent comment/request referred to the browser not connecting. I know there is currently a bug where Android stops the tor process but Tor Browser doesn't detect this, and the user only receives a proxy error. I'm not certain this why the users are saying the browser doesn't connect, but it's an annoying bug in any case.
The second most frequent comment in December related to the app crashing after attempting a file download.
There were multiple comments and questions about the Orbot integration. Some users asked if they needed Orbot installed anymore, others requested that development continue on Orbot and Tor Browser shouldn't replace Orbot. There were additional questions and concerns about Tor Browser's Orbot screen and configuring VPN mode - specifically using Tor Browser's (Orbot's) VPN mode for torifying other apps. This last issue should be resolved with the new bootstrapping UI and the enxt release should mitigate the Orbot/Tor Browser UI/UX confusion. We should be more clear about Tor Browser's dependency on the Orbot app. I'm not sure how we should communicate this, yet.
There were more requests for Russian localization and Turkish localization. Users should see this automatically now if their device is configured with another language as the default. If the device is not configured with Russian/Turkish as their default language, then they can select another locale in Fennec/Tor Browser's settings menu, but maybe this isn't obvious. We can think about how we can/should make this easier.
The remaining comments were: - The new update didn't work in Iran - Request for bridge support (ticket #28802) - It's not obvious when Tor isn't running - Request for x86 support (ticket #27210) - Updates aren't working, users are reinstalling the app after each update - Request for detecting and using the Orbot app if it's installed - A user noticed the app "randomly" start - A user noticed the app stop after a long period of use - Tor Browser is using the Orfox logo (ticket #27399) - Add-on installation is blocked - Request for a Javascript button (toggle on/off) - Tor is slow - Request for a circuit display - Tor Browser's Orbot doesn't start tor, progress hangs at startup without any errors - Tabs aren't restored after Android kills the app in the background - Request to make Tor Browser SDCard-compatible - Request for allowing taking of screenshots (ticket #27987)
There were two comments about failure after installing the update and reinstalling the app as a result. We should investigate this. One instance was reported on a Blackberry Priv.
- Matt
Hi Matt,
Thanks for reviewing those.
For the comments that don’t currently have tickets, e.g Lack of ad-blocker, ability to install add-ons, etc… Do we want to do something about it in future? I can create tickets for these items, but maybe we want to do some triage first? Maybe during next week’s Tor Browser meeting.
What does everyone else think?
Thanks,
Pili
— Project Manager: Tor Browser, UX and Community teams pili at torproject dot org gpg 3E7F A89E 2459 B6CC A62F 56B8 C6CB 772E F096 9C45
On 14 Jan 2019, at 15:20, Matthew Finkel matthew.finkel@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I read the reviews/comments of Tor Browser for Android on Google Play from November and December. Some of the requests were addressed/implemented in the December Tor Browser 8.5a5 release, but I'll mention them here for completeness.
In November, the most frequent comment/request was about the lack of copy/paste functionality. This was tracked and fixed in #27256.
The second most frequent comment referred to receiving a browser proxy error message (some mentioned "incorrect proxy setting" message). It seems possible this was due to Orbot not being installed or running. Before tor was bundled in the app, Tor Browser did warn the user if an Orbot installation wasn't detected and it tried starting Orbot if it was detected but wasn't running, but maybe this wasn't sufficient in all cases. Tor Browser now includes its own tor proxy, so those failures should be mitigated.
The remaining comments were:
- Requesting tor integration directly into the app (ticket #28051)
- Requesting ability to take screenshots (ticket #27987)
- Can't download images/pdfs/files (ticket #28705)
- Tor is slow
- Request for Russian localizations (ticket #26843)
- Request for additional localizations (ticket #26843)
- Lack of ad-blocker
- Prevented from installing add-ons (primarily for installing an ad-blocker)
- Request for a single button that disables all scripts
- Request for supporting x86 devices (ticket #27210)
- Observation Tor Browser is not a torrent client
In December, including comments before and after the release where the app included its own tor client, the most frequent comment/request referred to the browser not connecting. I know there is currently a bug where Android stops the tor process but Tor Browser doesn't detect this, and the user only receives a proxy error. I'm not certain this why the users are saying the browser doesn't connect, but it's an annoying bug in any case.
The second most frequent comment in December related to the app crashing after attempting a file download.
There were multiple comments and questions about the Orbot integration. Some users asked if they needed Orbot installed anymore, others requested that development continue on Orbot and Tor Browser shouldn't replace Orbot. There were additional questions and concerns about Tor Browser's Orbot screen and configuring VPN mode - specifically using Tor Browser's (Orbot's) VPN mode for torifying other apps. This last issue should be resolved with the new bootstrapping UI and the enxt release should mitigate the Orbot/Tor Browser UI/UX confusion. We should be more clear about Tor Browser's dependency on the Orbot app. I'm not sure how we should communicate this, yet.
There were more requests for Russian localization and Turkish localization. Users should see this automatically now if their device is configured with another language as the default. If the device is not configured with Russian/Turkish as their default language, then they can select another locale in Fennec/Tor Browser's settings menu, but maybe this isn't obvious. We can think about how we can/should make this easier.
The remaining comments were:
- The new update didn't work in Iran
- Request for bridge support (ticket #28802)
- It's not obvious when Tor isn't running
- Request for x86 support (ticket #27210)
- Updates aren't working, users are reinstalling the app after each update
- Request for detecting and using the Orbot app if it's installed
- A user noticed the app "randomly" start
- A user noticed the app stop after a long period of use
- Tor Browser is using the Orfox logo (ticket #27399)
- Add-on installation is blocked
- Request for a Javascript button (toggle on/off)
- Tor is slow
- Request for a circuit display
- Tor Browser's Orbot doesn't start tor, progress hangs at startup without any errors
- Tabs aren't restored after Android kills the app in the background
- Request to make Tor Browser SDCard-compatible
- Request for allowing taking of screenshots (ticket #27987)
There were two comments about failure after installing the update and reinstalling the app as a result. We should investigate this. One instance was reported on a Blackberry Priv.
- Matt
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Hi!
Thanks for this compilation, really helpful. I tried to come up with the tickets we already have for a bunch of things you mentioned below and made some suggestions for things that are worth tracking I think:
Matthew Finkel:
[snip]
The remaining comments were:
- Requesting tor integration directly into the app (ticket #28051)
- Requesting ability to take screenshots (ticket #27987)
- Can't download images/pdfs/files (ticket #28705)
- Tor is slow
- Request for Russian localizations (ticket #26843)
- Request for additional localizations (ticket #26843)
- Lack of ad-blocker
#17569
- Prevented from installing add-ons (primarily for installing an ad-blocker)
#27762
- Request for a single button that disables all scripts
- Request for supporting x86 devices (ticket #27210)
- Observation Tor Browser is not a torrent client
In December, including comments before and after the release where the app included its own tor client, the most frequent comment/request referred to the browser not connecting. I know there is currently a bug where Android stops the tor process but Tor Browser doesn't detect this, and the user only receives a proxy error. I'm not certain this why the users are saying the browser doesn't connect, but it's an annoying bug in any case.
Hm, do we have a way to detect that from browser land? Sounds like a good candidate for a ticket to me.
The second most frequent comment in December related to the app crashing after attempting a file download.
#28705 I guess.
There were multiple comments and questions about the Orbot integration. Some users asked if they needed Orbot installed anymore, others requested that development continue on Orbot and Tor Browser shouldn't replace Orbot. There were additional questions and concerns about Tor Browser's Orbot screen and configuring VPN mode - specifically using Tor Browser's (Orbot's) VPN mode for torifying other apps. This last issue should be resolved with the new bootstrapping UI and the enxt release should mitigate the Orbot/Tor Browser UI/UX confusion. We should be more clear about Tor Browser's dependency on the Orbot app. I'm not sure how we should communicate this, yet.
We should think about this once we have the final browser + tor combo (browser + orbot is just a stopgap) ready, evaluating what of the problems you mentioned above is still valid and then tackling those.
There were more requests for Russian localization and Turkish localization. Users should see this automatically now if their device is configured with another language as the default. If the device is not configured with Russian/Turkish as their default language, then they can select another locale in Fennec/Tor Browser's settings menu, but maybe this isn't obvious. We can think about how we can/should make this easier.
I wonder whether the Mozilla folks have some thoughts here and whether there is a bug on bugzilla on file for that as I am assuming they have the same issues/complaints. Or maybe their users know what to do?
The remaining comments were:
- The new update didn't work in Iran
Any indication as to what is going on here or is it "just" censorship?
- Request for bridge support (ticket #28802)
- It's not obvious when Tor isn't running
- Request for x86 support (ticket #27210)
- Updates aren't working, users are reinstalling the app after each update
We should file a ticket for that one.
- Request for detecting and using the Orbot app if it's installed
- A user noticed the app "randomly" start
- A user noticed the app stop after a long period of use
- Tor Browser is using the Orfox logo (ticket #27399)
- Add-on installation is blocked
- Request for a Javascript button (toggle on/off)
- Tor is slow
- Request for a circuit display
#25764
- Tor Browser's Orbot doesn't start tor, progress hangs at startup without any errors
- Tabs aren't restored after Android kills the app in the background
- Request to make Tor Browser SDCard-compatible
What's the issue here, do we know? Sounds worth a ticket I think.
- Request for allowing taking of screenshots (ticket #27987)
There were two comments about failure after installing the update and reinstalling the app as a result. We should investigate this. One instance was reported on a Blackberry Priv.
I agree.
Georg