Hi,
I think it would be important to have a way to flag/report those websites that can't be access by the users while they're using the tor browser.
Is there already a solution to do this? Do you think it would be a good tool?
It would be great to have an updated records of this kind of websites so that we can push website owners to make the Tor user-experience as smooth as possible.
Thanks
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 08:27:01AM -0500, Boter42 wrote:
I think it would be important to have a way to flag/report those websites that can't be access by the users while they're using the tor browser.
Is there already a solution to do this? Do you think it would be a good tool?
It would be great to have an updated records of this kind of websites so that we can push website owners to make the Tor user-experience as smooth as possible.
There's an informal yet quite large list here: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/doc/ListOfServicesBlocking...
-------- Original Message -------- On Mar 10, 2017, 5:45 PM, David Fifield wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 08:27:01AM -0500, Boter42 wrote: > I think it would be important to have a way to flag/report those websites that > can't be access by the users while they're using the tor browser. > > Is there already a solution to do this? Do you think it would be a good tool? > > It would be great to have an updated records of this kind of websites so that > we can push website owners to make the Tor user-experience as smooth as > possible. There's an informal yet quite large list here: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/doc/ListOfServicesBlocking...
Thank you. Is the list updated manually? Cause I think a button to let users report websites could be really helpful too.
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Boter42 boter42@protonmail.com wrote:
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/doc/ListOfServicesBlocking...
It would be great to have an updated records of this kind of websites so that we can push website owners to make the Tor user-experience as smooth as possible.
Yes you will see page below that has this as exactly one of the goals.
Thank you. Is the list updated manually? Cause I think a button to let users report websites could be really helpful too.
You will read at the top of the above page this link to the parent project... https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/projects/DontBlockMe
They talk about 'user submissions to server' at bottom. So definitely feel free to create and announce your ideas for automatic submissions, to notify websites, to get some review and even collect a team of people to work on it [1] :)
[1] Maybe from tor-talk or linked to your idea from the wiki page.
[1] Maybe from tor-talk or linked to your idea from the wiki page.
You also see some discussions here https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-access/ and here https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/
-------- Original Message -------- On Mar 10, 2017, 9:21 PM, grarpamp wrote: > [1] Maybe from tor-talk or linked to your idea from the wiki page. You also see some discussions here https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-access/ and here https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/ _______________________________________________ tor-dev mailing list tor-dev@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-dev
Great! Thanks.
I'm also trying to implement an automatic scan of specific lists of websites to check their behaviour towards Tor. I'm using ooniprobe but I lack some technical skills (mainly to filter out false positives), I'll see if I can set up a team.
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 03:46:03PM -0500, Boter42 wrote:
I'm also trying to implement an automatic scan of specific lists of websites to check their behaviour towards Tor. I'm using ooniprobe but I lack some technical skills (mainly to filter out false positives), I'll see if I can set up a team.
You might be able to use/adapt some code we wrote to mine OONI reports for cases of Tor blocking:
http://sec.cs.ucl.ac.uk/users/smurdoch/papers/ndss16doyousee.pdf https://archive.org/details/ndss16doyousee
The actual OONI-processing code is in a Git repo at: https://www.bamsoftware.com/git/ooni-tor-blocks.git
One catch, though, is that you'll have to adapt the ooni.py file to handle OONI's web_connectivity tests. The code was originally written before web_connectivity existed, so it only works with the http_requests test.
If you want to run your own active tests, we have some patches on top of exitmap: git clone -b l7_tor_limits https://www.bamsoftware.com/git/exitmap.git But you will need to do some work to bring them up to date.
-------- Original Message -------- On Mar 10, 2017, 11:49 PM, David Fifield wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 03:46:03PM -0500, Boter42 wrote: > I'm also trying to implement an automatic scan of specific lists of websites to > check their behaviour towards Tor. I'm using ooniprobe but I lack some > technical skills (mainly to filter out false positives), I'll see if I can set > up a team. You might be able to use/adapt some code we wrote to mine OONI reports for cases of Tor blocking: http://sec.cs.ucl.ac.uk/users/smurdoch/papers/ndss16doyousee.pdf https://archive.org/details/ndss16doyousee
I've already got my hands on this paper but I haven't studied yet. Thanks!
The actual OONI-processing code is in a Git repo at: https://www.bamsoftware.com/git/ooni-tor-blocks.git One catch, though, is that you'll have to adapt the ooni.py file to handle OONI's web_connectivity tests. The code was originally written before web_connectivity existed, so it only works with the http_requests test. If you want to run your own active tests, we have some patches on top of exitmap: git clone -b l7_tor_limits https://www.bamsoftware.com/git/exitmap.git But you will need to do some work to bring them up to date.
Not sure I have enough skills to deal with it, but I'll consider to join the OONI partnership program. Maybe I can set up something more organic.
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