Hi,
On my relays I am dropping any traffic that Tor itself does not rely on. I wonder if I should allow or block incoming and/outgoing ICMP type 11 (time exceeded / timeout in transit)?
My host does receive some ICMP type 11 packets, and does seem to send some out, but I am not sure if Tor is the source or destination. Do Tor relays use some 'traceroute'-like mechanism to detect unreachable relays?
"netstat -s: ... ICMP input histogram: ... timeout in transit: 1923 ... ICMP output histogram: ... timeout in transit: 1277 " I remember seeing outgoing TCP packets with TTL set to 1 - those were the ones triggering incoming ICMP type 11 packets.
Thanks, - Igor
On 23 Oct 2017, at 05:14, Igor Mitrofanov igor.n.mitrofanov@gmail.com wrote:
On my relays I am dropping any traffic that Tor itself does not rely on. I wonder if I should allow or block incoming and/outgoing ICMP type 11 (time exceeded / timeout in transit)?
Try it and see?
My host does receive some ICMP type 11 packets, and does seem to send some out, but I am not sure if Tor is the source or destination. Do Tor relays use some 'traceroute'-like mechanism to detect unreachable relays?
Not as far as I am aware.
"netstat -s: ... ICMP input histogram: ... timeout in transit: 1923 ... ICMP output histogram: ... timeout in transit: 1277 " I remember seeing outgoing TCP packets with TTL set to 1 - those were the ones triggering incoming ICMP type 11 packets.
Are you running an exit? Do you have multiple IP addresses? Using OutboundBindAddressExit can help you to find out if it's tor relaying traffic, or tor exit traffic from clients that are doing TCP traceroutes.
T
I have figured it out. Tor is fine.
TTL=1 mentioned in incoming ICMP 11 messages is just the destination host's perspective, not what the relay originally sent out. I have traceroute'd to some hosts the relay was trying to connect to, and there are indeed infinite routing loops (misconfigured networks) over there, so TTL gets decremented to 1 and the ICMP error is delivered, as it should.
I am going to allow both ICMP type 11 and type 3 then. (Need to figure out what to do with incoming fragmented packets, but that's another story altogether, perhaps for tor-relays@)
Thanks!
On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 1:55 PM, teor teor2345@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 Oct 2017, at 05:14, Igor Mitrofanov igor.n.mitrofanov@gmail.com wrote:
On my relays I am dropping any traffic that Tor itself does not rely on. I wonder if I should allow or block incoming and/outgoing ICMP type 11 (time exceeded / timeout in transit)?
Try it and see?
My host does receive some ICMP type 11 packets, and does seem to send some out, but I am not sure if Tor is the source or destination. Do Tor relays use some 'traceroute'-like mechanism to detect unreachable relays?
Not as far as I am aware.
"netstat -s: ... ICMP input histogram: ... timeout in transit: 1923 ... ICMP output histogram: ... timeout in transit: 1277 " I remember seeing outgoing TCP packets with TTL set to 1 - those were the ones triggering incoming ICMP type 11 packets.
Are you running an exit? Do you have multiple IP addresses? Using OutboundBindAddressExit can help you to find out if it's tor relaying traffic, or tor exit traffic from clients that are doing TCP traceroutes.
T _______________________________________________ tor-dev mailing list tor-dev@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-dev
-
Igor Mitrofanov -
teor