On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:30:24AM -0700, Tom Lowenthal wrote:

When applying for grants, planning future work, and otherwise thinking about what capacity we have leftover to do things in the future, it's really useful to know who's doing what and how much of it. I get some of this information from our sponsor/project-specific meetings, but it doesn't seem to be the full picture, so I'd like to trot out that old chestnut of regular one-on-one chats.

Hi Tom,

Thanks for taking this on.

This means that I'd like to spend between thirty and sixty minutes talking with each of you, once every week or two. I'd like to calibrate the frequency so that we can get calls down to 30 minutes each, with room to kvetch and have a conversation that's a little more than just rattling off deliverable status and time assignments.

Sounds good. But since you snuck the word 'calls' in there, let me suggest that you be flexible with each person about how they most efficiently interact. Some people will prefer phone calls, others scheduled irc meetings, and maybe others will work best with unscheduled irc meetings -- i.e. if they're on irc a lot it might be best just to catch them when they have a free moment and get an update, rather than spending time and effort on cordoning off some specific piece of the future.

There's a clear tradeoff here between "makes things more complicated for Tom" and "makes things more complicated for everybody else". I guess the trick will be finding the right balance so you can keep up with everybody while minimizing your impact on their ability to get work done. But I want to emphasize that while some people want managers ("tell me what to do next"), others want coordinators ("here's what I've been doing, please let other people know as needed") and there are probably more than just these two categories too. Try not to cut off the parts of people that don't fit in the cookie-cutter mold. :)

Or to make the questions more concrete, a) I assume you would prefer a more realtime interaction, rather than say email; but b) how do these meetings relate to, augment, or replace monthly tor-reports mails, which I remember you once declared an interest in obsoleting?

Thanks! --Roger

Howdy folks,

I've heard back from some of y'all about getting regular chats scheduled (and have even scheduled some!). Thanks. I haven't heard back from everyone, so if you write to <tor-reports>, you should also write back to schedule some time. This is just a reminder that you should totally do that thing.

Also, know this: I am quite amenable to all kinds of communications. I'd like something real-time, so email, regular mail, Pond, and carrier Pigeons aren't great. However, XMPP, IRC, Ostel [that's SIP with ZRTP], and all sorts of other things which aren't really words but are totally ways of talking are great. I will even install Skype if you ask me to, but I'll judge you for it, (just a little).

One moderately-F AQ on my previous mail pertained to **who exactly** should talk to me. If you should email <tor-reports> monthly, you should talk to me. If Tor gives you money, that probably means you. If you volunteer on a project for which other people give Tor money, that also means you. If you think you might be a person who wants to work on a project for which people give Tor money (and perhaps even get paid for it), that might mean you too, and if I know what you want to do, there's a slightly-increased likelihood of us pitching someone doing that thing.

Hope to hear from you soon, -Tom

On 29 October 2013 11:30, Tom Lowenthal me@tomlowenthal.com wrote:

Hello fighters for freedom,

When applying for grants, planning future work, and otherwise thinking about what capacity we have leftover to do things in the future, it's really useful to know who's doing what and how much of it. I get some of this information from our sponsor/project-specific meetings, but it doesn't seem to be the full picture, so I'd like to trot out that old chestnut of regular one-on-one chats.

This means that I'd like to spend between thirty and sixty minutes talking with each of you, once every week or two. I'd like to calibrate the frequency so that we can get calls down to 30 minutes each, with room to kvetch and have a conversation that's a little more than just rattling off deliverable status and time assignments.

I think that the right group for this is the folks who post to tor-reports. If you post to tor-reports, please get back to me by the end of the week with your availability for a regular weekly check-in, as well as any thoughts you have about medium, format, or anything else. If you're not currently on tor-reports and think you should check in, or vice versa, you should probably drop me a line too.

Any questions or suggestions?

-Tom

Hi Tom,

being the admin for groups is a thankless task! I've mentioned a couple of times that the tor project does have availability of a spare VM with unique IPv4 for testing on. This offer has never been taken up. I'm a tester, not a coder, as I already run a relay I'm not sure what else I can do to assist you good people.

My kindest regards,

Phill. https://metrics.torproject.org/relay-search.html?search=176.31.156.199

On 29 October 2013 18:30, Tom Lowenthal me@tomlowenthal.com wrote:

Hello fighters for freedom,

When applying for grants, planning future work, and otherwise thinking about what capacity we have leftover to do things in the future, it's really useful to know who's doing what and how much of it. I get some of this information from our sponsor/project-specific meetings, but it doesn't seem to be the full picture, so I'd like to trot out that old chestnut of regular one-on-one chats.

This means that I'd like to spend between thirty and sixty minutes talking with each of you, once every week or two. I'd like to calibrate the frequency so that we can get calls down to 30 minutes each, with room to kvetch and have a conversation that's a little more than just rattling off deliverable status and time assignments.

I think that the right group for this is the folks who post to tor-reports. If you post to tor-reports, please get back to me by the end of the week with your availability for a regular weekly check-in, as well as any thoughts you have about medium, format, or anything else. If you're not currently on tor-reports and think you should check in, or vice versa, you should probably drop me a line too.

Any questions or suggestions?

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