On 06/13/2016 12:43 AM, Kate wrote:
I'm wondering if we could collect a bunch of Tor volunteers at the Seattle office and get a pizza and send out a bunch at the same time?
Willing to do about 100 here, but that involves shipping them here. However, I am more than willing.
At the moment it's not about a one-time action, and it's not about the actual process of sending them either.
Like I said dozens of times, it is about _reacting_ to the mails that come in. I do not understand what is so hard about sending people a friendly auto-reply, letting them know that their emails have in fact arrived, that this is a volunteer activity, and that we will eventually get back to them and get them a shirt. That's all that most people demand. It could also be stated on the website. Which by the way still refers to Tor Weather, which is defunct and offline. https://www.torproject.org/getinvolved/tshirt.html
It is really tiring to explain this over and over again whenever someone asks: Yes, it's a volunteer thing, yes, someone will eventually answer your mail, it is not going to a black hole, yes, Tor Weather is dead and yes, we know about it but still nobody bothered to update the references.
And, just in case people haven't noticed, most threads on tor-relays and tor-talk do not see replies from Tor core members any more, which is a shame. That particular thread that Sebastian refers to has been there with many people wondering for way too long now without being answered. No, I'm not going to do that any more, I think this thing can be easily fixed, and all of it is not about gathering some volunteers to send out shirts. Even though I agree with that idea, and have encouraged Juris to do exactly that in the Berlin space. It has not happened, because the problem is not "packing the shirts", the problem as I understand it is that dealing with shirt requests is a painful interaction, you need to write them back, ask for proper information like fingerprints and postal mail addresses, the people don't know which shirts are actually available, etc etc. -- the final step in the pipeline is pretty optimized by now from what I've seen. See a photo from one day of action: https://twitter.com/torservers/status/728329622740451329 All these were packed, labelled and mailed within a day. And I think that was all the shirts from the crowdfunding campaign, which did bring properly formatted postal mail addresses. The requests coming in via email do not.