This seems like an obvious question, but
https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html
gives me no clear answer.
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I've gotten conflicting reports on the goals of Tor ranging among: * protecting Tor users and HSs * preventing linking of IP addresses to internet traffic regardless of whether someone is a Tor user * developing and enabling privacy-enhancing technologies * furthering human rights * furthering "internet freedom" * furthering "privacy"
Each of these is a fine and good thing. However, the current ambiguity makes it unclear what to do when these individually good things conflict. For example, Tor2web enables linking of client IP addresses to internet traffic. Which is bad. However, it also "furthers human rights" as it's the largest whistleblowing platform. How to adjudicate? When are we, as agents of Tor Project, serving "the ideology of Tor" versus our own personal ideology?
Clarifying this is a standard part of organizational maturity. For example, Greenpeace does a similar thing: * http://www.greenpeace.org/eastasia/about/mission/ * http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/about/our-core-values/
While different people will have slightly different ideas of what constitutes the "Tor ideology", and we don't want to wantonly pick fights, it seems reasonable for management to triage these individually good things into different tiers. Because right now I see people claiming orthogonal things as Tor Project's ideology.
-V
It occurred to me there's another obvious conflict,
Taking the natural goals of: (a) developing and enabling privacy-enhancing technologies (b) reducing the surveillance breadth and power of the military-industrial complex
The MEMEX project furthered (a), but at the expense of (b). This decision was controversial, which perhaps illustrates why a priority tiering is valuable. As the Tor leadership made the MEMEX decision, this means that everything else being equal, they put (a) on a higher tier than (b) ?
I make no judgment of whatever priority tiers are decided. I merely assert that as-is, there are conflicting stories. Greater clarification of when we're acting for the organization's ideology versus acting for our own ideology would be immensely helpful in avoiding circular firing squads.
As an aside, when deciding such things, I find
http://www.paulgraham.com/identity.html
to be valuable.
-V
On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Virgil Griffith i@virgil.gr wrote:
This seems like an obvious question, but
https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html
gives me no clear answer.
I've gotten conflicting reports on the goals of Tor ranging among:
- protecting Tor users and HSs
- preventing linking of IP addresses to internet traffic regardless of
whether someone is a Tor user
- developing and enabling privacy-enhancing technologies
- furthering human rights
- furthering "internet freedom"
- furthering "privacy"
Each of these is a fine and good thing. However, the current ambiguity makes it unclear what to do when these individually good things conflict. For example, Tor2web enables linking of client IP addresses to internet traffic. Which is bad. However, it also "furthers human rights" as it's the largest whistleblowing platform. How to adjudicate? When are we, as agents of Tor Project, serving "the ideology of Tor" versus our own personal ideology?
Clarifying this is a standard part of organizational maturity. For example, Greenpeace does a similar thing:
- http://www.greenpeace.org/eastasia/about/mission/
- http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/about/our-core-values/
While different people will have slightly different ideas of what constitutes the "Tor ideology", and we don't want to wantonly pick fights, it seems reasonable for management to triage these individually good things into different tiers. Because right now I see people claiming orthogonal things as Tor Project's ideology.
-V
On 21 May 2016, at 06:45, Virgil Griffith i@virgil.gr wrote:
This seems like an obvious question, but
https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html
gives me no clear answer.
"The Tor Project’s mission is to advance human rights and freedoms by creating and deploying free and open anonymity and privacy technologies, supporting their unrestricted availability and use, and furthering their scientific and popular understanding."
Sorry for not seeing this early. Thank you!
-V
On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Sebastian Hahn mail@sebastianhahn.net wrote:
"The Tor Project’s mission is to advance human rights and freedoms by creating and deploying free and open anonymity and privacy technologies, supporting their unrestricted availability and use, and furthering their scientific and popular understanding."
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