This meeting happened and we decided to move forward with nextcloud replacing storm.torproject.org

Meeting logs here: http://meetbot.debian.net/tor-meeting/2019/tor-meeting.2019-08-27-17.59.html

Notes (from https://pad.riseup.net/p/A3KznPZJy4ZOpqSXEwT5)

Tuesday August 27th, 1800 UTC at #tor-meeting in irc.oftc.net

Agenda

discuss pros/cons on nextcloud

decide next steps on moving or not to nextcloud

Next steps

File a ticket to decide on own nextcloud instance versus an instance from someone else like riseup. (ln5) [done: #31540]

Get the new instance up and running

Create users on the new instance, migrating data from the current instance when applicable.

Notify storm people that its being closed down, and they will need to move their stuff. Do not create new things in storm

Migrate all used files from storm into nextcloud. The migration will happen by its owners, for data that does have an owner. Appoint Someone (tm) to take care of the rest, or decide that it disappears.

Storm people are told that they have 2 weeks to move anything off of storm to NC, and then it will be shutdown

Storm is shutdown, but the data and install is left untouched for 6months-1year, and someone is tasked with hand cranking it alive when someone realizes they have a document there that they didn't move

After a year, its put into some backup and the service is removed

Party!

Activities:

*please add user cases, pros and cons for nextcloud*

Use Cases

- Calendar: sharing events, meetings and private vacation calendar. - People still using SVN #1702 for senstive corp documents . Can we move it to nextcloud? - I think this is a separate discussion -- we're not putting these documents in the same instance as a general NC. /ln5 - Collaborative writing on documents (blogposts, grants) - Host any document that can not be in grantshub, public wiki or any other public site.

PROs

. it loads much better than storm . apps being mantained * easier to have collaborative folders of documents / no one person is holding shared files

CONs

. onlyoffice may still not be enough for the collaborative editing that grants teams need (track changes + comments system not as good as gdoc)- same for comms

References: [0] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/operations/services/nextcl... [1] https://storm.torproject.org [2] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/30869 [3] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/29415

El 8/20/19 a las 11:24 AM, Gaba escribió:

Hi!

We have been evaluating Nextcoud [0] this year as a replacement for storm [1] and some of us have been using it and giving feedback [2][3] .

The next step is to meet with all people interested in this transition (or not) to

• discuss cons/pros of nextcloud for Tor and try to make a

decision on moving forward.

The meeting day will be: Tuesday August 27th, 1800 UTC at #tor-meeting in irc.oftc.net

If you can't come to the meeting but you still want to say something please reply to this mail in tor-project@ or send me or Linus a private message.

Thanks! gaba

[0] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/operations/services/nextcl... [1] https://storm.torproject.org [2] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/30869 [3] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/29415