I'd like to mention a few additional things:
Firstly if you look at the source code of their mail, then you will find that the image is hosted at a unique URL. Automatically loading the image will let them know that you opened the mail. They also publish this info in their abuse feed e.g.:
https://www.webiron.com/abuse_feed/
E-Mail Action: opened 2017-02-11 19:20:24.804194-07 abuse ATH us.leaseweb.com Host has opened and viewed report
Then they also have a twitter bot which tweets nonsensical info into the www - https://twitter.com/webironbots
And lastly I tried to reply to one of their emails, but my mails are being rejected at their mx, even though the torexit and my mx are on different IPs. I inquired via their support-form and I received a very hostile reply (just like everyone else here) that my AS couldn't be trusted. So they rather block the whole AS on their mx (but they can't just block tor-exits????)
On 08.02.2017 08:59 AM, DaKnOb wrote:
Incidentally yesterday I published a blog post featuring them and why their abuse e-mails are plain spam:
https://blog.daknob.net/security-companies-and-abuse-e-mails/
On 08 Feb 2017, at 06:00, Andrew Deason adeason@dson.org wrote:
I run an exit node, and as such, I get abuse emails like this from time to time:
https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2015-October/007982.html
Mostly I ignore them, but since their automated report contains the sentence "Please feel free to send us your comments or responses.", every so often I send something to complain about their practices. To my surprise, apparently somebody does actually read these because today I got a reply.
I'm not reproducing the entire response here without permission (they seem kinda touchy), but the person that replied did mention that they have some kind of rbl "in beta" regarding tor exits. They seemed to imply that doing so was quite a burden on them, though, which I don't really understand (IME blocking tor exits is easy; intentionally so).
I'm trying to keep the conversation going, but I was wondering if anyone from the tor project has tried to reach out to them in some kind of official way? I'm just some random guy, so I don't know if it would be preferable for someone more knowledgeable, or with more access to tor infrastructure, to be conversing with them. (e.g. teor)
I assume some people will say this isn't even worth the effort; it's not like it's hard to just ignore those reports. But it doesn't take much effort to just try to talk ot them, and it perhaps helps to give tor a reputation of cooperation and helpfulness.
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