Hi,
So I am wondering, is a Raspberry Pi 4 a recommended device to run a tor relay on? In terms of traffic load, etc? Thanks. --Keifer
There are no technical or economic reasons not to use Pi5, imho.
HTH. Marco
On ven, 2024-11-01 at 18:15 -0700, Keifer Bly wrote:
Hi,
So I am wondering, is a Raspberry Pi 4 a recommended device to run a tor relay on? In terms of traffic load, etc? Thanks. --Keifer _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
It works. My relay is running on a Raspberry Pi 4B with 4 GB RAM. Bandwith for the relay is 2 Mbit/s, CPU Load of the relay is about 20 %
Am 02.11.24 um 02:15 schrieb Keifer Bly:
Hi,
So I am wondering, is a Raspberry Pi 4 a recommended device to run a tor relay on? In terms of traffic load, etc? Thanks. --Keifer
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Hey Keifer,
the CPU is very capable for the price asked for the whole system (35 bucks).
I think you would be able to squeeze maybe 100 MBit/s out of the mostly single-threaded Tor instance but that's it.
If you just want your own little private bridge or a small guard relay, go for it but if you want your relay to be usable at all times get a Pi 5 which has hardware AES acceleration, which can then be used by openssl (and then ultimately by Tor..).
Hope I could help, -GH On Monday, November 4th, 2024 at 10:33 AM, Keifer Bly keifer.bly@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, So I am wondering, is a Raspberry Pi 4 a recommended device to run a tor relay on? In terms of traffic load, etc? Thanks. --Keifer
On 01 Nov (18:15:13), Keifer Bly wrote:
Hi,
So I am wondering, is a Raspberry Pi 4 a recommended device to run a tor relay on? In terms of traffic load, etc? Thanks.
Greetings,
For a while, Pies were not powerful enough to handle high throughput traffic that the network needed (and still needs). RAM was also very limited (relays at minimum need 4GB these days).
And this all gets worst when DDoS happen where the Pies of the network are the first one to die.
With the latest versions, they are quite more powerful. But, apart from CPU and RAM, what is massively important for a relay is uptime and reliability.
That is where a Pie on your home desk can be not so great. It can't be seen as just a fun experiment or just "I'll do that for 6 months until I can figure out something better to do with the Pie" also :S...
The Tor network needs relays that are powerful (better speed, better at soaking DDoS) and more importantly reliable and trustable. And so, if you are aiming for that with a Pie4, by all means :).
Cheers! David
Thanks all.
--Keifer
On Mon, Nov 4, 2024, 5:38 AM David Goulet dgoulet@torproject.org wrote:
On 01 Nov (18:15:13), Keifer Bly wrote:
Hi,
So I am wondering, is a Raspberry Pi 4 a recommended device to run a tor relay on? In terms of traffic load, etc? Thanks.
Greetings,
For a while, Pies were not powerful enough to handle high throughput traffic that the network needed (and still needs). RAM was also very limited (relays at minimum need 4GB these days).
And this all gets worst when DDoS happen where the Pies of the network are the first one to die.
With the latest versions, they are quite more powerful. But, apart from CPU and RAM, what is massively important for a relay is uptime and reliability.
That is where a Pie on your home desk can be not so great. It can't be seen as just a fun experiment or just "I'll do that for 6 months until I can figure out something better to do with the Pie" also :S...
The Tor network needs relays that are powerful (better speed, better at soaking DDoS) and more importantly reliable and trustable. And so, if you are aiming for that with a Pie4, by all means :).
Cheers! David
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Taking some answers from a reply to a different user:
The BCM2712 SoC microcontroller has a base frequency 1,5 GhZ with 4 cores and 4 threads, but most importantly, it also supports openSSL hardware acceleration, with up to 42 times faster AES speeds.
Also, regarding the "I'll just do this at home with my static IÜ until I want to repurpose my brand new Pi", there are datacenters who will colocate your Pi, at very affordable rates.
At least there were..
All the best, -GH
On Monday, November 4th, 2024 at 2:37 PM, David Goulet dgoulet@torproject.org wrote:
On 01 Nov (18:15:13), Keifer Bly wrote:
Hi,
So I am wondering, is a Raspberry Pi 4 a recommended device to run a tor relay on? In terms of traffic load, etc? Thanks.
Greetings,
For a while, Pies were not powerful enough to handle high throughput traffic that the network needed (and still needs). RAM was also very limited (relays at minimum need 4GB these days).
And this all gets worst when DDoS happen where the Pies of the network are the first one to die.
With the latest versions, they are quite more powerful. But, apart from CPU and RAM, what is massively important for a relay is uptime and reliability.
That is where a Pie on your home desk can be not so great. It can't be seen as just a fun experiment or just "I'll do that for 6 months until I can figure out something better to do with the Pie" also :S...
The Tor network needs relays that are powerful (better speed, better at soaking DDoS) and more importantly reliable and trustable. And so, if you are aiming for that with a Pie4, by all means :).
Cheers! David
-- LVhDzrGDlICa3f1oXA8PH221hdOB1qlpD6N7G58Keww= _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
On Monday, November 4th, 2024 at 04:33, Keifer Bly keifer.bly@gmail.com wrote:
So I am wondering, is a Raspberry Pi 4 a recommended device to run a tor relay on? In terms of traffic load, etc? Thanks.
It's not powerful, but it certainly works, and if you have one around you can set it up and leave it alone until the next Tor release. I put vnstat (to measure network traffic) on mine a few months ago, and this is what it shows. I don't know why the numbers vary, but the Pi quietly moves one or two gigs of traffic a day without complaining.
$ vnstat -m --iface wlan0
wlan0 / monthly
month rx | tx | total | avg. rate ------------------------+-------------+-------------+--------------- 2024-04 416.35 GiB | 428.03 GiB | 844.38 GiB | 2.80 Mbit/s 2024-05 808.80 GiB | 842.77 GiB | 1.61 TiB | 5.30 Mbit/s 2024-06 426.15 GiB | 429.83 GiB | 855.98 GiB | 2.84 Mbit/s 2024-07 354.59 GiB | 352.77 GiB | 707.36 GiB | 2.27 Mbit/s 2024-08 149.03 GiB | 150.89 GiB | 299.92 GiB | 961.88 kbit/s 2024-09 160.28 GiB | 160.25 GiB | 320.53 GiB | 1.06 Mbit/s 2024-10 166.87 GiB | 160.55 GiB | 327.42 GiB | 1.05 Mbit/s 2024-11 25.78 GiB | 23.95 GiB | 49.73 GiB | 1.24 Mbit/s ------------------------+-------------+-------------+--------------- estimated 193.68 GiB | 179.91 GiB | 373.59 GiB |
Bill
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