Great.
On Mar 29, 2017, at 01:03, "contact@gnosticmedia.commailto:contact@gnosticmedia.com" <contact@gnosticmedia.commailto:contact@gnosticmedia.com> wrote:
Sure do .
From: John Ricketts [mailto:john@quintex.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:02 PM To: contact@gnosticmedia.commailto:contact@gnosticmedia.com Cc: tor-relays@lists.torproject.orgmailto:tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: Hackers
Sir,
I do not know why you contacted me. You did not tell me what was attacked, when it was attacked, or how it was attacked.
Now you're threatening to attack me. Clearly, you are not a reasonable person.
Do what you must. My information is public, you know where I live and you have my telephone number. :-)
John On Mar 29, 2017, at 00:57, "contact@gnosticmedia.commailto:contact@gnosticmedia.com" <contact@gnosticmedia.commailto:contact@gnosticmedia.com> wrote: Look pal, CC me again to your dark webbers and I will go after you. I clearly contacted you about a complaint for hackers coming from YOUR servers. I copied and pasted it right to you. Don't play games, "doc".
Complaints: 1) Hackers are coming from your servers. 2) You're sharing my information with a large email list without my permission about hackers coming from your servers, for contacting you about these very same hackers.
Don't play stupid. You know exactly why I contacted you.
Whilst your complainant seems to have a bee in their bonnet I'm not sure you're doing anyone anyone any favours by CC'ing pseudo-private correspondence into a mailing list.
As a fellow ISP owner running Tor Exits (AS28715) I also enjoy the "right" to treat abuse requests according to rules that only I write (UK legislation not withstanding) but IMHO we have a responsibility proportional to our "mere conduit" superpowers, both to the privacy of Tor users *and* crazy abuse@ emails from individuals.
This could turn into another Mozilla / Oil and Gas thing ( https://arstechnica.co.uk/security/2017/03/firefox-gets-complaint-for-labeli... )
Gareth,
Thank you for your response.
I can imagine how this could turn into Oil and Gas incident and I certainly wouldn't want that for myself or anyone else. I'm still debating the privacy of CC:ing the group. As the majority of us do, I've received lots of abuse emails.... but none quite like this. What I have done here is brought the issue to the herd for protection instead of isolating the incident and keeping away from the rest of you. At the time I felt that everyone on the relay list might want to know about the individual, but in hindsight it was spam to most.
I apologize for the spam.
John
On Mar 29, 2017, at 03:23, Gareth Llewellyn <gareth@networksaremadeofstring.co.ukmailto:gareth@networksaremadeofstring.co.uk> wrote:
Whilst your complainant seems to have a bee in their bonnet I'm not sure you're doing anyone anyone any favours by CC'ing pseudo-private correspondence into a mailing list.
As a fellow ISP owner running Tor Exits (AS28715) I also enjoy the "right" to treat abuse requests according to rules that only I write (UK legislation not withstanding) but IMHO we have a responsibility proportional to our "mere conduit" superpowers, both to the privacy of Tor users *and* crazy abuse@ emails from individuals.
This could turn into another Mozilla / Oil and Gas thing ( https://arstechnica.co.uk/security/2017/03/firefox-gets-complaint-for-labeli... ) _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.orgmailto:tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Assuming that your adversary is Jan Irvin - that person has quite the issue with MKULTRA, the CIA, counterculture.... and is rather vocal about it. You have apparently been classed with those so named, congrats! And it does appear to be a bee rattling around in a head that mistrusts a great deal of life.
Gumby
On 03/29/2017 05:47 AM, John Ricketts wrote:
Gareth,
Thank you for your response.
I can imagine how this could turn into Oil and Gas incident and I certainly wouldn't want that for myself or anyone else. I'm still debating the privacy of CC:ing the group. As the majority of us do, I've received lots of abuse emails.... but none quite like this. What I have done here is brought the issue to the herd for protection instead of isolating the incident and keeping away from the rest of you. At the time I felt that everyone on the relay list might want to know about the individual, but in hindsight it was spam to most.
I apologize for the spam.
John
On Mar 29, 2017, at 03:23, Gareth Llewellyn <gareth@networksaremadeofstring.co.uk mailto:gareth@networksaremadeofstring.co.uk> wrote:
Whilst your complainant seems to have a bee in their bonnet I'm not sure you're doing anyone anyone any favours by CC'ing pseudo-private correspondence into a mailing list.
As a fellow ISP owner running Tor Exits (AS28715) I also enjoy the "right" to treat abuse requests according to rules that only I write (UK legislation not withstanding) but IMHO we have a responsibility proportional to our "mere conduit" superpowers, both to the privacy of Tor users *and* crazy abuse@ emails from individuals.
This could turn into another Mozilla / Oil and Gas thing ( https://arstechnica.co.uk/security/2017/03/firefox-gets-complaint-for-labeli... ) _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org mailto:tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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