hey all,
I'm looking to host an exit relay in a country with a low node count. I came across crservers.com[0] via exotic VPS, and am considering using them to host a small exit node to start out.
A quick glance at their ToS for VPS services[1] indidicates that their policies are pretty strict, but figured it'd be worth asking the list to see if anyone had personal experience with them before I rule them out. I've also contacted them about this.
cheers,
p
[0] - https://crservers.com [1] - https://www.crservers.com/downloads/SHARED-SERVER-CONTRACT.pdf
probably they will at least detect some traffic to porn-sites? but there still is a "can" in the sentence: "CRSERVERS can suspend or terminate unilaterally this hosting contract immediately and with no Refunds, if the customer incurs in one or several of the following" you should reduce your exit policy and give it a try: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/ReducedExitPolicy
Am Sonntag, 6. September 2015 06:06 schrieb Patrick O'Doherty p@trickod.com:
hey all,
I'm looking to host an exit relay in a country with a low node count. I came across crservers.com[0] via exotic VPS, and am considering using them to host a small exit node to start out.
A quick glance at their ToS for VPS services[1] indidicates that their policies are pretty strict, but figured it'd be worth asking the list to see if anyone had personal experience with them before I rule them out. I've also contacted them about this.
cheers,
p
[0] - https://crservers.com [1] - https://www.crservers.com/downloads/SHARED-SERVER-CONTRACT.pdf
tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
I received the following response from them:
We do not discriminate on the use of any protocol among our customers. Nevertheless, if we get complains or any type of pressure from public or private entities for illegal activity occurring in your server, we will have to suspend service. You will be immediately contacted about any issue that arises.
so it would appear that they're not too friendly about hosting exit relays. I've asked if they can forward all abuse complains to be instead of immediately terminating service, but I'm not too hopeful.
p
Patrick O'Doherty:
hey all,
I'm looking to host an exit relay in a country with a low node count. I came across crservers.com[0] via exotic VPS, and am considering using them to host a small exit node to start out.
A quick glance at their ToS for VPS services[1] indidicates that their policies are pretty strict, but figured it'd be worth asking the list to see if anyone had personal experience with them before I rule them out. I've also contacted them about this.
cheers,
p
[0] - https://crservers.com [1] - https://www.crservers.com/downloads/SHARED-SERVER-CONTRACT.pdf
" we will have to suspend service. You will be immediately contacted about any issue that arises."
Doesn't their statement say they will only suspend the exit to talk to you about what to do?
Robert
On 9 September 2015 at 01:28, I beatthebastards@inbox.com wrote:
" we will have to suspend service. You will be immediately contacted about any issue that arises."
Doesn't their statement say they will only suspend the exit to talk to you about what to do?
I think that matches "not too friendly", it would be much better if they talked before suspending rather than after...
On 09/08/2015 12:14 PM, Patrick O'Doherty wrote:
I received the following response from them:
We do not discriminate on the use of any protocol among our customers. Nevertheless, if we get complains or any type of pressure from public or private entities for illegal activity occurring in your server, we will have to suspend service. You will be immediately contacted about any issue that arises.
This explanation is marvelously vague.
so it would appear that they're not too friendly about hosting exit relays. I've asked if they can forward all abuse complains to be instead of immediately terminating service, but I'm not too hopeful.
My hunch is that they just don't want to deal with the complaints and legal & administrative overhead -it's more cost-effective just to cut you off. When I first set up Tor some years ago I briefly ran it as an exit node, having sent an explanatory e-mail to my ISP, but I very quickly learned that once they receive a DMCA notice they cut you off at the knees, whereupon you're dealing with "help" desk morons working from a very strict script. Best to run an exit node from a corporate set-up with the legal boilerplate already in place.
Patrick, Do you mind adding this info to the "good/bad isps" wiki? I'm looking around for hosting as well and thought we could improve that page a little. https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs
Thanks, Greg
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Kenneth Freeman kencf0618@riseup.net wrote:
On 09/08/2015 12:14 PM, Patrick O'Doherty wrote:
I received the following response from them:
We do not discriminate on the use of any protocol among our customers. Nevertheless, if we get complains or any type of pressure from public or private entities for illegal activity occurring in your server, we will have to suspend service. You will be immediately contacted about any issue that arises.
This explanation is marvelously vague.
so it would appear that they're not too friendly about hosting exit relays. I've asked if they can forward all abuse complains to be instead of immediately terminating service, but I'm not too hopeful.
My hunch is that they just don't want to deal with the complaints and legal & administrative overhead -it's more cost-effective just to cut you off. When I first set up Tor some years ago I briefly ran it as an exit node, having sent an explanatory e-mail to my ISP, but I very quickly learned that once they receive a DMCA notice they cut you off at the knees, whereupon you're dealing with "help" desk morons working from a very strict script. Best to run an exit node from a corporate set-up with the legal boilerplate already in place.
tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
I intend on doing so when I hear back about their DMCA forwarding option, as I think that'll decide whether they're friendly or not.
p
Greg:
Patrick, Do you mind adding this info to the "good/bad isps" wiki? I'm looking around for hosting as well and thought we could improve that page a little. https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs
Thanks, Greg
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Kenneth Freeman kencf0618@riseup.net wrote:
On 09/08/2015 12:14 PM, Patrick O'Doherty wrote:
I received the following response from them:
We do not discriminate on the use of any protocol among our customers. Nevertheless, if we get complains or any type of pressure from public or private entities for illegal activity occurring in your server, we will have to suspend service. You will be immediately contacted about any issue that arises.
This explanation is marvelously vague.
so it would appear that they're not too friendly about hosting exit relays. I've asked if they can forward all abuse complains to be instead of immediately terminating service, but I'm not too hopeful.
My hunch is that they just don't want to deal with the complaints and legal & administrative overhead -it's more cost-effective just to cut you off. When I first set up Tor some years ago I briefly ran it as an exit node, having sent an explanatory e-mail to my ISP, but I very quickly learned that once they receive a DMCA notice they cut you off at the knees, whereupon you're dealing with "help" desk morons working from a very strict script. Best to run an exit node from a corporate set-up with the legal boilerplate already in place.
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