On 2016-06-12 at 13:21, Jannis Wiese wrote:
I’m waiting since 7 months now. I know the guys who are handling the T-shirt requests are busy and I am (was) prepared to wait, but it’s a bit frustrating (if I think about it), to be honest.
On 08.06.2016, at 19:34, Markus Koch niftybunny@googlemail.com wrote:
I am waiting since January?
Hope has died a long time ago ...
2016-06-08 19:23 GMT+02:00 Michael Armbruster tor@armbrust.me:
On 2016-06-08 at 19:17, Green Dream wrote:
The T-shirt incentive for relay operators is gone, as far as I know.
If you donate $100 or more here you can pick a T-shirt as the gift: https://www.torproject.org/donate/donate.html.en
There are many alternative ways to monitor the health and uptime of your relay. I like https://www.statuscake.com/ for this and their free plan is sufficient. I'm not affiliated with them, I just like their product.
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As far as I know, the incentive should still be there. At least it is according to the web page. [1]
But if it's really gone, it definitely has to be changed on the webpage, as I myself am thinking right now that I should get a shirt. By the way, I'm also already waiting for an answer for more than 2 weeks. Just some time ago I heard somebody has waited 2 months to get an answer. Well, I'm patient :)
Best, Michael
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Well, then it won't be several weeks for me to wait, but obviously it will be several months. I of course planned to let the exit node run, but it should definitely be handled in a better way. Even an automatic mail once in a month, stating "We will handle it, but we are busy right now" would give me a better feeling about it. Not even an answer in 2-3 weeks, or in your case 7 months feels a bit uncomfy.
Do you guys really run relays just for the t-shirt? Aren't there more important reasons to run a relay, like serving the community, being an advocate for privacy, and acting against surveillance and censorship?
Is this t-shirt issue *really* a problem that needs to be solved? The Tor Project has many other problems that need attention, and their time is a limited resource. Can we please just stop worrying and complaining about the damn t-shirts?
+1
Besides, if the T-shirt is that big of a deal, you can just make your own. On Jun 12, 2016 4:29 PM, "Green Dream" greendream848@gmail.com wrote:
Do you guys really run relays just for the t-shirt? Aren't there more important reasons to run a relay, like serving the community, being an advocate for privacy, and acting against surveillance and censorship?
Is this t-shirt issue *really* a problem that needs to be solved? The Tor Project has many other problems that need attention, and their time is a limited resource. Can we please just stop worrying and complaining about the damn t-shirts?
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On 2016-06-12 at 23:29, Green Dream wrote:
Do you guys really run relays just for the t-shirt? Aren't there more important reasons to run a relay, like serving the community, being an advocate for privacy, and acting against surveillance and censorship?
Is this t-shirt issue *really* a problem that needs to be solved? The Tor Project has many other problems that need attention, and their time is a limited resource. Can we please just stop worrying and complaining about the damn t-shirts?
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It's not like I said "give me the damn t-shirt now or I'll quit providing my exit node". Of course I will run the exit node for a longer time and I even plan to provide a second one as soon as I have spare money to afford another cheap server (I already run 3 servers in total while 2 of them should not have their IP used for TOR unfortunately; there are reasons for that, but maybe one of them will at least be a relay soon; the other one does not have enough performance to run Tor additionally to that what it does now).
It's just that the Tor Project promises t-shirts for exit node owners and as such, they should at least respond to such questions and request in a decent time (while I think 1 month is doable and still decent enough). But some people wait for 7 months for something that is promised, at least they wait for an answer. Even a simple "Sorry, the Tor website is wrong. There are not t-shirts for exit nodes anymore" answer would be great.
It's not only about the t-shirt itself (although having one would be nice, it looks just awesome), it's more about the communication to the community itself. And isn't it the community that is running Tor? That's exactly what you said here.
" It's not only about the t-shirt itself (although having one would be nice, it looks just awesome), it's more about the communication to the community itself. And isn't it the community that is running Tor? That's exactly what you said here. "
Well said.
2016-06-12 23:29 GMT+02:00 Green Dream greendream848@gmail.com:
Do you guys really run relays just for the t-shirt? Aren't there more important reasons to run a relay, like serving the community, being an advocate for privacy, and acting against surveillance and censorship?
Is this t-shirt issue *really* a problem that needs to be solved? The Tor Project has many other problems that need attention, and their time is a limited resource. Can we please just stop worrying and complaining about the damn t-shirts?
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As I already said 4 days ago in this thread, all indications are the t-shirt program is no longer active.
It turns out one of the other things that takes time and effort is keeping the website up to date!
If someone here really cares about the false promise of t-shirts, that person could submit a pull request to update the website accordingly.
On 06/13/2016 12:17 AM, Green Dream wrote:
As I already said 4 days ago in this thread, all indications are the t-shirt program is no longer active.
Wrong. It's just being handled by one volunteer at the moment. If you want shirts, go into a shop and buy a shirt. If you want to contribute to Tor, and be appreciated and have that appreciation being shown to you by the community by getting a shirt, wait and magic will happen.
If someone here really cares about the false promise of t-shirts, that person could submit a pull request to update the website accordingly.
eg. https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/19354
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