Got another threatening e-mail from my ISP today, prompted by another SpamCop complaint regarding spam run through HotMail. HotMail records the address of the originating server and that, again, is my exit node.
So I have to curtail exit access to HotMail. Yeah, it sucks, but I know of no way to block the sending of webmail while still allowing it to be retrieved.
Thus spake Steve Snyder (swsnyder@snydernet.net):
Got another threatening e-mail from my ISP today, prompted by another SpamCop complaint regarding spam run through HotMail. HotMail records the address of the originating server and that, again, is my exit node.
So I have to curtail exit access to HotMail. Yeah, it sucks, but I know of no way to block the sending of webmail while still allowing it to be retrieved.
Make sure this is done via exit policy and not iptables or DNS filter.
Also, are you sure you have the whole hotmail netblock?
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:47:42 -0700 Mike Perry mikeperry@fscked.org allegedly wrote:
Thus spake Steve Snyder (swsnyder@snydernet.net):
Got another threatening e-mail from my ISP today, prompted by another SpamCop complaint regarding spam run through HotMail. HotMail records the address of the originating server and that, again, is my exit node.
So I have to curtail exit access to HotMail. Yeah, it sucks, but I know of no way to block the sending of webmail while still allowing it to be retrieved.
Make sure this is done via exit policy and not iptables or DNS filter.
Also, are you sure you have the whole hotmail netblock?
And make sure that you similarly block all webmail remailers. Hotmail aren't the only ones to stick "X-Originating-IP" headers in the mail.
But seriously, I think this is a bad idea. Much better to explain to your ISP what has happened and why you are not responsible. I have done exactly that with my ISP when they shovelled spamcop crud my way. They understood entirely, reacted like professionals and told spamcop where to go. If your provider won't help, it may be time to switch providers.
Mick
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OK, I'm backing down from this after discovering the huge number of IP addresses associated with *.hotmail.com and *.live.com names.
They understood entirely
Must be nice. My ISP, on being informed that I run a Tor exit node, informed me that I was responsible for all traffic leaving my server and that they would cancel my account if I didn't take stops to solve the problem.
Sigh.
-----Original Message----- From: "mick" mbm@rlogin.net Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 4:02pm To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Sorry, HotMail users, you're rejected
_______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:47:42 -0700 Mike Perry mikeperry@fscked.org allegedly wrote:
Thus spake Steve Snyder (swsnyder@snydernet.net):
Got another threatening e-mail from my ISP today, prompted by another SpamCop complaint regarding spam run through HotMail. HotMail records the address of the originating server and that, again, is my exit node.
So I have to curtail exit access to HotMail. Yeah, it sucks, but I know of no way to block the sending of webmail while still allowing it to be retrieved.
Make sure this is done via exit policy and not iptables or DNS filter.
Also, are you sure you have the whole hotmail netblock?
And make sure that you similarly block all webmail remailers. Hotmail aren't the only ones to stick "X-Originating-IP" headers in the mail.
But seriously, I think this is a bad idea. Much better to explain to your ISP what has happened and why you are not responsible. I have done exactly that with my ISP when they shovelled spamcop crud my way. They understood entirely, reacted like professionals and told spamcop where to go. If your provider won't help, it may be time to switch providers.
Mick
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The text file for RFC 854 contains exactly 854 lines. Do you think there is any cosmic significance in this?
Douglas E Comer - Internetworking with TCP/IP Volume 1
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc854.txt ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Thus spake Steve Snyder (swsnyder@snydernet.net):
OK, I'm backing down from this after discovering the huge number of IP addresses associated with *.hotmail.com and *.live.com names.
They understood entirely
Must be nice. My ISP, on being informed that I run a Tor exit node, informed me that I was responsible for all traffic leaving my server and that they would cancel my account if I didn't take stops to solve the problem.
The response here is to tell them you accept full legal responsibility for the traffic. The reality is that your actual legal responsibility is zero in most countries, but it might make them feel better that you acknowledge it will be you proving that in court, not them.
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