Hi,
I facilitated the meetup at FOSDEM, last Sunday, and I wanted to report back on what happened, and what worked (or did not).
We had around 20 people, with relatively little overlap with the 34C3 meetup (I could be wrong, though, as I'm bad at recognising faces). This seems quite good, esp. considering that the 34C3 meetup was a month before, and that the meetup wasn't announced especially early (we announced ~2 weeks in advance there would be one, but the time and precise location couldn't be fixed until Sat. morning)
The room configuration wasn't exactly ideal (typical lecture room, not great if you want people to talk to one another). That's something we can probably improve next year, by organising the meetup at a side-event (say, on Friday early evening) at one of the local hackerspaces or somesuch; this way, we get a better location and we could communicate time & locations much more in advance.
Communication-wise, I started publishing the events in blog.tpo (thanks hiro!), which seems to have helped some people; if we organise it as a side-event next year, we shoudl also get it on their website:
https://fosdem.org/2018/fringe/
Content-wise, there were some pretty fruitful discussion, but we spent quite a bit of time on questions that recurr at other meetups too:
- What's the most useful thing I can bring to the network? (TL;DR: Ideally, fast relays (if possible exits); if you can't contribute more than 1MB/s, make it a bridge)
- Can I run my relay on a Raspberry Pi (or similar) ?
- Why does my relay (or Internet connection) die once I have TLS connections established to most other relays? (This instance was likely caused by an ISP-provided router with bad TCP connection tracking.)
- Why doesn't Tor support IPv6 yet?
(Feel free to add more questions if I forgot some here)
Those are all somewhat simple, and I think we would definitely benefit from having better, and more visible, FAQs for those. I will try to take the time and make/improve wiki pages for those, but I wouldn't mind some help from one of the website-makers to see how we can make it more visible.
Getting people to ask a bunch of questions at the start, and broadly categorizing them, as suggested by Roger last meetup, seemed to work well: we managed to cover all topics people were interested in, and were only 20 minutes over time.
However, I had people shortly introduce themselves before adding their question, and that might not be so good in retrospect, as the intros took a bunch of time, and might have been an obstacle to people suggesting more questions.
If people are interested, I can start collating advise on how to facilitate tor-relays meetups in some wiki page, though I'm not sure yet how to convey that “nicoo's way of relays meetup” isn't meant to be authoritative or prescriptive at all (read: I have no clue what I'm doing, but hopefully it works not too bad.)
Best,
nicoo
Content-wise, there were some pretty fruitful discussion, but we spent quite a bit of time on questions that recurr at other meetups too:
- What's the most useful thing I can bring to the network? (TL;DR: Ideally, fast relays (if possible exits); if you can't contribute more than 1MB/s, make it a bridge)
I like 1MByte/s (8MBit/s) as the "limit" between relay vs. bridge, currently we mention 16MBit/s and 2MBit/s in the documentation:
https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#HowDoIDecide https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TorRelayGuide#RelayRequirement...
I'll go ahead and make 8 MBit/s the lower limit (and keep "It is recommended that a relay have at least 16 MBit/s (Mbps)") unless there are strong opinions against it.
Can I run my relay on a Raspberry Pi (or similar) ?
Why does my relay (or Internet connection) die once I have TLS connections established to most other relays? (This instance was likely caused by an ISP-provided router with bad TCP connection tracking.)
we tried to cover this in the guide: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TorRelayGuide#BandwidthandConn...
- Why doesn't Tor support IPv6 yet?
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TorRelayGuide#IPv6 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/IPv6RelayHowto https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/roadmaps/Tor/IPv6 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/roadmaps/Tor/IPv6Features
Those are all somewhat simple, and I think we would definitely benefit from having better, and more visible, FAQs for those. I will try to take the time and make/improve wiki pages for those, but I wouldn't mind some help from one of the website-makers to see how we can make it more visible.
I added an entry for "The Tor Relay Guide" on the website: https://www.torproject.org/docs/installguide.html.en
I'm not sure if naming this section "Expert guides" is the right thing, since you do not need to be a Tor "expert" to run a relay. I might submit a branch to get that wording changed or start a discussion (if needed) on tor-dev about it.
I'm planing to go over the relay section of the FAQ on www.tpo and provide a branch for review, do you have commit privileges for the website and would be up to review and commit my changes? https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#relay
Some questions in that section do not actually belong to the relay section, like: "I want to run my Tor client on a different computer than my applications."
I'm looking forward to community.tpo to have that Tor Relay Guide content - currently located in the trac wiki maybe look a bit more readable :)
- What's the most useful thing I can bring to the network?
added to the FAQ (pending review)
- Why doesn't Tor support IPv6 yet?
added to the FAQ (pending review)
I'm planing to go over the relay section of the FAQ on www.tpo and provide a branch for review, do you have commit privileges for the website and would be up to review and commit my changes?
tracked as: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/25206 (state: needs_review)
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