Tim Semeijn schreef op 10/08/14 17:33:

On 8/10/14, 4:32 PM, ban@unseen.is wrote:

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Hi,

apparently this hasn't been discussed here yet. About a month ago, Donncha O'Cearbhaill build https://oniontip.com/ during the Dublin Bitcoin Hackathon. It is a webapp which automatically extracts all Bitcoin addresses set in the ContactInfo variable of the torrc and distributes Bitcoin donations based on the consensus weight.

There are already 100+ relays listed which represent around 5% of the total consensus weight. In just a few weeks they distributed around 125 US$.

There are many other theoretical ways to provide compensation to tor relay operators (see https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-incentives-research-roundup-goldstar-pa...)

but I really like this very simple and practical approach.

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I myself added a bitcoin address to the ContactInfo variable of my nodes when I saw a tweet about this initiative. It is a nice way to offer a way to donate to multiple node running volunteers instead of donating to a specific person or organization.

My nodes take up 20% of the current donations based on consensus so it would be nice if more relay operators take part in this project to make it resemble the current Tor network better.

I really like this and I've added an address to my exits (4.2% of total exit consensus). However, for this to really kick off I'd recommend adding visibility on how many donations were received and how it was distributed across relays. There should be safeguards to prevent oniontip.com from taking a part of the money, etc.

Tom

On 10 Aug 2014, at 19:00, Tim Semeijn noc@bbln.org wrote:

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I really like this and I've added an address to my exits (4.2% of total exit consensus). However, for this to really kick off I'd recommend adding visibility on how many donations were received and how it was distributed across relays. There should be safeguards to prevent oniontip.com from taking a part of the money, etc.

There's a fun incentive shift here. By trying to cheat the consensus weight, you won't just get more traffic sent your way, but more money from oniontip, too. I bet someone could explore this further.

Still, I think it's a great idea and I am happy people are playing around with ways to give back to relay operators.

Cheers Sebastian

Tim Semeijn schreef op 10/08/14 17:33:

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On 8/10/14, 4:32 PM, ban@unseen.is wrote:

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Hi,

apparently this hasn't been discussed here yet. About a month ago, Donncha O'Cearbhaill build https://oniontip.com/ during the Dublin Bitcoin Hackathon. It is a webapp which automatically extracts all Bitcoin addresses set in the ContactInfo variable of the torrc and distributes Bitcoin donations based on the consensus weight.

There are already 100+ relays listed which represent around 5% of the total consensus weight. In just a few weeks they distributed around 125 US$.

There are many other theoretical ways to provide compensation to tor relay operators (see https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-incentives-research-roundup-goldstar-pa...)

but I really like this very simple and practical approach.

...

Thoughts? _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays

I myself added a bitcoin address to the ContactInfo variable of my nodes when I saw a tweet about this initiative. It is a nice way to offer a way to donate to multiple node running volunteers instead of donating to a specific person or organization.

My nodes take up 20% of the current donations based on consensus so it would be nice if more relay operators take part in this project to make it resemble the current Tor network better.

I really like this and I've added an address to my exits (4.2% of total exit consensus). However, for this to really kick off I'd recommend adding visibility on how many donations were received and how it was distributed across relays. There should be safeguards to prevent oniontip.com from taking a part of the money, etc.

Tom

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Agreed, this is pretty awesome. It allows independent relay operators to receive donations no matter where they are in the world whether or not they are affiliated with any group.

The donations are transparent, since the money can be followed on the Bitcoin blockchain to ensure that your donation made it to the individual addresses of the relay operators.