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Am not new to Tor bur am to the mailing list and running a relay and I have noticed and endless amount of legal concerns and not just on exit nodes. People running non-exit relays getting booted out by their VPS/ISP provider. I am just curious if it is getting worse or has it been this way for a while. I want to help/encourage others to run relays but a recent submission about the guy who got his friend to run a relay and (not-so)Freenode shut down his VPS. Is this only going to get worse? What happens then?
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I run an exit node off of a residential Verizon connection and I haven't seen a single threat, legal or otherwise so far, I dunno why you're having so much trouble.
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:02 PM, That Guy grep@gmx.us wrote:
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Am not new to Tor bur am to the mailing list and running a relay and I have noticed and endless amount of legal concerns and not just on exit nodes. People running non-exit relays getting booted out by their VPS/ISP provider. I am just curious if it is getting worse or has it been this way for a while. I want to help/encourage others to run relays but a recent submission about the guy who got his friend to run a relay and (not-so)Freenode shut down his VPS. Is this only going to get worse? What happens then?
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On 13-08-29 09:02 PM, That Guy wrote:
Am not new to Tor bur am to the mailing list and running a relay and I have noticed and endless amount of legal concerns and not just on exit nodes. People running non-exit relays getting booted out by their VPS/ISP provider. I am just curious if it is getting worse or has it been this way for a while. I want to help/encourage others to run relays but a recent submission about the guy who got his friend to run a relay and (not-so)Freenode shut down his VPS. Is this only going to get worse? What happens then?
When things go smoothly there isnt much reason to post to the tor-relays list, so i would expect lots of trouble reports and requests for help here. Stick around for awhile and i think you will see that a lot of problems are teething pains - people learning how to configure their relay for their particular hosting situation which includes a myriad of factors. It doesnt seem possible to get a complete picture by reading a single document (less than booklet-sized) before starting a relay.
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That Guy:
nodes. People running non-exit relays getting booted out by their VPS/ISP provider. I am just curious if it is getting worse or has it
This is rarely due to anything other than bandwidth issues, although some backwards ISPs do not like *any* sort of "P2P" traffic. I chalk this up to ignorance. Give your money to a better provider if this happens.
Best, - -Gordon M.
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:19:48 -0700 Gordon Morehouse gordon@morehouse.me wrote:
That Guy:
nodes. People running non-exit relays getting booted out by their VPS/ISP provider. I am just curious if it is getting worse or has it
This is rarely due to anything other than bandwidth issues, although some backwards ISPs do not like *any* sort of "P2P" traffic. I chalk this up to ignorance. Give your money to a better provider if this happens.
With VPS providers, there is also the issue of CPU usage. If the host machine does not have the AES-NI acceleration or does not expose it to the VPS guest (and this is extremely common), a relay even at some 50Mbit in + 50Mbit out will already consume 100% of a modern 2.3 GHz CPU core, 24x7. Many or even most VPS providers will not be okay with that.
- -- With respect, Roman
On Aug 29, 2013, at 8:02 PM, That Guy wrote:
Signed PGP part Am not new to Tor bur am to the mailing list and running a relay and I have noticed and endless amount of legal concerns and not just on exit nodes. People running non-exit relays getting booted out by their VPS/ISP provider. I am just curious if it is getting worse or has it been this way for a while. I want to help/encourage others to run relays but a recent submission about the guy who got his friend to run a relay and (not-so)Freenode shut down his VPS. Is this only going to get worse? What happens then?
I'm not sure if it's much of a data point, but I've been running a relay node for a month on a residential cable modem (Charter in the U.S.) with no issues (yet). I throttle it to ~2Mb/s though (my upload is only 3Mb/s).
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