Dear relay operators,
Today the torproject.org was officially blocked in Russia. You can read more about the situation here[1].
Russia is the country with the second largest number of Tor users, with more than 300,000 daily users or 15% of all Tor users.
As it seems this situation could quickly escalate to a country-wide Tor block, it's urgent that we respond to this censorship!
We need your help NOW to keep Russians connected to Tor!
We are calling on everyone to spin up a Tor bridge.
If you've ever considered running a bridge, now is an excellent time to get started, as your help is urgently needed. You can find the requirements and instructions for starting a bridge in the Help Censored Users, Run a Tor Bridge blog post: https://blog.torproject.org/run-a-bridge-campaign/
Gus
[1] https://blog.torproject.org/tor-censorship-in-russia/ https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/support/-/issues/40050
gus,
Since all of my exit nodes are within the same /16 - would I have to run bridges on newly acquired IPv4 space?
John
-----Original Message----- From: tor-relays tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org On Behalf Of gus Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:16 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: [tor-relays] Responding to Tor censorship in Russia
Dear relay operators,
Today the torproject.org was officially blocked in Russia. You can read more about the situation here[1].
Russia is the country with the second largest number of Tor users, with more than 300,000 daily users or 15% of all Tor users.
As it seems this situation could quickly escalate to a country-wide Tor block, it's urgent that we respond to this censorship!
We need your help NOW to keep Russians connected to Tor!
We are calling on everyone to spin up a Tor bridge.
If you've ever considered running a bridge, now is an excellent time to get started, as your help is urgently needed. You can find the requirements and instructions for starting a bridge in the Help Censored Users, Run a Tor Bridge blog post: https://blog.torproject.org/run-a-bridge-campaign/
Gus
[1] https://blog.torproject.org/tor-censorship-in-russia/ https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/support/-/issues/40050 -- The Tor Project Community Team Lead
Quoting John Ricketts (2021-12-07 21:40:24)
Since all of my exit nodes are within the same /16 - would I have to run bridges on newly acquired IPv4 space?
If is a different IPv4 (even in the same /16) it should be fine. AFAIK up to now censors block by IP not by range, and /16 looks like a big range to block without problems.
That's what I was thinking... I run 100 exit nodes. I'd like to get more opinions.
-----Original Message----- From: tor-relays tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org On Behalf Of Felix Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:04 AM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Responding to Tor censorship in Russia
Hi
Since all of my exit nodes are within the same /16 - would I have to run bridges on newly acquired IPv4 space?--
A bridge has no `family´. An entity running bridge and exit generates an end-to-end situation and might not be what we want.
Cheers, Felix _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
On Thursday, December 9, 2021 3:11:25 PM CET John Ricketts wrote:
That's what I was thinking... I run 100 exit nodes. I'd like to get more opinions.
-----Original Message----- From: tor-relays tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org On Behalf Of Felix Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:04 AM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Responding to Tor censorship in Russia
Since all of my exit nodes are within the same /16 - would I have to run bridges on newly acquired IPv4 space?--
A bridge has no `family´. An entity running bridge and exit generates an
Unfortunately this is a bad design flaw. :-(
end-to-end situation and might not be what we want.
An entity that wants to exploit the end-to-end situation just does it under fake names. Well-known and proven operators cannot help the Tor project. We actually want to do the same thing as John. Known exit operators who want to set up several 100 bridges.
So we want bridges without contact info and from unknown persons / state agencies?
I am sure there is nothing with this excellent plan that could possible go wrong.
A bridge has no `family´. An entity running bridge and exit generates an end-to-end situation and might not be what we want.
Cheers, Felix _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Hi,
On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 09:08:05PM +0100, abuse department wrote:
So we want bridges without contact info and from unknown persons / state agencies?
I am sure there is nothing with this excellent plan that could possible go wrong.
AFAIK, bridges weren't involved in the last attack. But, maybe others folks here could have different evidences and, if they want to share these evidences, they can contact me in private or send an email to bad-relays@lists.torproject.org.
Regarding publishing contactinfo for bridges, here is the ticket: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/network-health/metrics/collector/-/issues/...
It would help if more relay operators comment on that ticket supporting the proposal.
Regarding MyFamily, there's a new MyFamily proposal that will include bridges, please check this thread and spec:
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/torspec/-/blob/main/proposals/321-hap... https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2021-November/019954.html
Gus
Correct! Bridges weren't involved in the last attack thats why bridges will never be involved in a future attack in a highly dynamic environment.
You cant make this shit up.
AFAIK, bridges weren't involved in the last attack. But, maybe others folks here could have different evidences and, if they want to share these evidences, they can contact me in private or send an email to bad-relays@lists.torproject.org.
Regarding MyFamily, there's a new MyFamily proposal that will include bridges, please check this thread and spec:
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/torspec/-/blob/main/proposals/321-hap... https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2021-November/019954.html
the related issue discusses MyFamily bridge support https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/tor/-/issues/40134#note_2759481
Hi John,
Let's do this:
If censorship in Russia scale to a country-wide Tor block, then you can spin as many bridges as you can. What do you think?
Thank you!, Gus
On Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 08:40:24PM +0000, John Ricketts wrote:
gus,
Since all of my exit nodes are within the same /16 - would I have to run bridges on newly acquired IPv4 space?
John
-----Original Message----- From: tor-relays tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org On Behalf Of gus Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:16 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: [tor-relays] Responding to Tor censorship in Russia
Dear relay operators,
Today the torproject.org was officially blocked in Russia. You can read more about the situation here[1].
Russia is the country with the second largest number of Tor users, with more than 300,000 daily users or 15% of all Tor users.
As it seems this situation could quickly escalate to a country-wide Tor block, it's urgent that we respond to this censorship!
We need your help NOW to keep Russians connected to Tor!
We are calling on everyone to spin up a Tor bridge.
If you've ever considered running a bridge, now is an excellent time to get started, as your help is urgently needed. You can find the requirements and instructions for starting a bridge in the Help Censored Users, Run a Tor Bridge blog post: https://blog.torproject.org/run-a-bridge-campaign/
Gus
[1] https://blog.torproject.org/tor-censorship-in-russia/ https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/support/-/issues/40050 -- The Tor Project Community Team Lead _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Sorry for this post but it pisses me off so much.
We now have terms and conditions how well known Tor relay operators are allowed to donate their own money in form of IPs, BW and CPU cycles without getting anything back?
If censorship in Russia scale to a country-wide Tor block, then you can spin as many bridges as you can. What do you think?
Yes, I know of the family problem. Get a family in Guards. Problem solved.
I can legit spin up 128 bridges. Let me know.
John
On Dec 10, 2021, at 15:55, gus gus@torproject.org wrote:
Hi John,
Let's do this:
If censorship in Russia scale to a country-wide Tor block, then you can spin as many bridges as you can. What do you think?
Thank you!, Gus
On Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 08:40:24PM +0000, John Ricketts wrote: gus,
Since all of my exit nodes are within the same /16 - would I have to run bridges on newly acquired IPv4 space?
John
-----Original Message----- From: tor-relays tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org On Behalf Of gus Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:16 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: [tor-relays] Responding to Tor censorship in Russia
Dear relay operators,
Today the torproject.org was officially blocked in Russia. You can read more about the situation here[1].
Russia is the country with the second largest number of Tor users, with more than 300,000 daily users or 15% of all Tor users.
As it seems this situation could quickly escalate to a country-wide Tor block, it's urgent that we respond to this censorship!
We need your help NOW to keep Russians connected to Tor!
We are calling on everyone to spin up a Tor bridge.
If you've ever considered running a bridge, now is an excellent time to get started, as your help is urgently needed. You can find the requirements and instructions for starting a bridge in the Help Censored Users, Run a Tor Bridge blog post: https://blog.torproject.org/run-a-bridge-campaign/
Gus
[1] https://blog.torproject.org/tor-censorship-in-russia/ https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/support/-/issues/40050 -- The Tor Project Community Team Lead _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
-- The Tor Project Community Team Lead _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
I'm still learning on how to manage my server, is it ok to run the bridge even if it has some weeks uptime and then will be down for another few weeks?
binarynoise
Am Dienstag, dem 07.12.2021 um 17:16 -0300 schrieb gus:
Dear relay operators,
Today the torproject.org was officially blocked in Russia. You can read more about the situation here[1].
Russia is the country with the second largest number of Tor users, with more than 300,000 daily users or 15% of all Tor users.
As it seems this situation could quickly escalate to a country-wide Tor block, it's urgent that we respond to this censorship!
We need your help NOW to keep Russians connected to Tor!
We are calling on everyone to spin up a Tor bridge.
If you've ever considered running a bridge, now is an excellent time to get started, as your help is urgently needed. You can find the requirements and instructions for starting a bridge in the Help Censored Users, Run a Tor Bridge blog post: https://blog.torproject.org/run-a-bridge-campaign/
Gus
[1] https://blog.torproject.org/tor-censorship-in-russia/ https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/support/-/issues/40050 _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Quoting binarynoise (2021-12-08 19:41:31)
I'm still learning on how to manage my server, is it ok to run the bridge even if it has some weeks uptime and then will be down for another few weeks?
If the bridge is going to be down for few weeks might be better if you wait to host it after the down time has passed.
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